The OG already explains everything you need to know about how Cloud feels and the devs have already explained it in the ultimanias. Sure, there’s always a chance that the remake could go in a different direction but the burden falls on you to prove that, otherwise there’s no reason to discount the information already provided.What specifically do you mean?
I am not ignoring, I literally gave a complete sentence about the pixels she sent me read carefully, I'd assume.You're literally ignoring the screenshots from the Lifestream scene where Cloud states he wanted to be noticed by Tifa, smh.
I've read the ultimanias and nothing romantic concerning Cloud's interest has been confirmed so do tell. And, yes, let us wait for Parts of the remake to make their debut in order to sound the bell just yet. Not yet. I get what I have been shown but we need to watch out for the remake. These are SE developer's true intentions.The OG already explains everything you need to know about how Cloud feels and the devs have already explained it in the ultimanias. Sure, there’s always a chance that the remake could go in a different direction but the burden falls on you to prove that, otherwise there’s no reason to discount the information already provided.
Ahem actually we already see a glimpse of Cloud's desire to be noticed by Tifa in the remake.Albeit it, Cloud never really joined SOLDIER initially for Tifa to notice him, he initially joined SOLDIER to be like Sephiroth. But talking about the polygonal game development, you do have a point. But when the remake comes out and it panes differently then what? We need to wait for FFVII remake Part 2 or even Part 3 to come out to even begin to piece things together. Because if the remake panes differently (which at this rate it's going could be) then what?
If Cloud in the remake reinstates these words and it panes out that way then we can complete this trilogy. We can go ahead and say Cloud joined Tifa for her to notice him if that is what SE intends to reveal. But that by no means equates to Cloud and Tifa being romantic partners by a stretch.
We can't even say Cloud is the one talking or voicing his feelings because his name isn't even indicated here. It could be a slight narration.
What specifically do you mean?
Tifa literally says,Ahem actually we already see a glimpse of Cloud's desire to be noticed by Tifa in the remake.
This scene where Tifa as soon as she sees Cloud runs up to him all excited actually never happened. It's literally a expression of Cloud's subconscious, it's his desire to be noticed by Tifa. So I think it's safe to assume that the game is already alluding to the Lifestream scene.
But this never happened, Cloud makes up this sceneTifa literally says,
Tifa: *grunts* "Are you ignoring me?"(waves to grab his attention, then Cloud looks away)
Wait I thought You already read the "Ultimanias"? So you should know this is official lol^Is that even official? Were these statements made by SE? Could be anyone's guess. You really have to look at the source to find that proof or evidence. I don't buy this and I KNEW you would bring this one up. It is one of the most recent magazines about FFVII. I doubt the source. Doubt it has anything to do with SE.
It doesn't actually. No quotes from SE? Hmm.....doesn't really make it official does it? No quotes or references indicating SE saying this. SO no that does not mean it is a valid source. And when I searched about it I found nothing but that page, with no references whatso ever, not good. I would say.Wait I thought You already read the "Ultimanias"? So you should know this is official lol
Here you go bro, as you can see it's not from some magazine but a actual page from the 25th ulti. Also you just said before, you read the Ultimanias implying they were perfectly fine to use, but now that there is a quote that shows you Cloud had romantic feelings for Tifa you suddenly claim they aren't canon. Really makes you thinkIt doesn't actually. No quotes from SE? Hmm.....doesn't really make it official does it? No quotes or references indicating SE saying this. SO no that does not mean it is a valid source. And when I searched about it I found nothing but that page, with no references whatso ever, not good. I would say.
I don't know why you trust that book with nothing on it no reference nothing quoting any staff of SE. Could be just a fan-based article rehashing their own sentiments and "publishing" it under the guise of SE. Still isn't official or valid reference.
Now when I search quotes from Tetsuya Nomura or the SE staff themselves saying something, I get tons of information. So that means it's valid.
I've read the ultimanias and nothing romantic concerning Cloud's interest has been confirmed so do tell.
She ventured into Lifestream together with Cloud. Amidst the course of him trying to ascertain his memories, they became aware of the thoughts/feelings which each other was holding.
-Tifa profile, 10th Anniversary Ultimania
She and Cloud came to realize their feelings for each other in the end of the story, and live together in AC and DC.
- Tifa profile, Crisis Core Ultimania.
Not to mention all the things that have been officially said about the under the Highwind sceneThanks to Tifa, Cloud regains himself, and before the final battle with Sephiroth, without using words, he confirms with her that their feelings match.
- For the One I Love, 20th Anniversary Ultimania
And, yes, let us wait for Parts of the remake to make their debut in order to sound the bell just yet. Not yet. I get what I have been shown but we need to watch out for the remake. These are SE developer's true intentions.
All of this is based on info from the OG, but you want us to only consider what the remake shows?Cloud was never under the allusion that he was Zack, as a matter of fact Cloud has been Cloud his true self the whole time. Zack and Cloud act different, and so therefore are two completely different individuals. So to get mixed up with Zack and Cloud is your own doing not the OG. Cloud only got his memories in a blunder because of Mako poisoning and confusion. That is where Tifa comes along to mend Cloud's memories in the lifestream scene. It is Cloud's memories that has been muddled. But to say that Cloud has been Zack and that his personalities and feelings are Zack is just ridiculous assumption and not true.
No. Cloud and Tifa did not "hook up" in FFVII nor during AC so that is over. They are still friends fighting along side, notice I said friends because that is what they are (AVALANCHE).
https://www.justpushstart.com/2017/...DeXSNl2OU1W7fi9k0eNKNSRdVxpTv7qwbBrNQ0wsquvdgAll of this is based on info from the OG, but you want us to only consider what the remake shows?
That is not valid. I'm sorry. SE nor TN never said this stuff. But a fan did unrelated to SE= not valid.Not to be rude or anything
Here you go bro, as you can see it's not from some magazine but a actual page from the 25th ulti. Also you just said before, you read the Ultimanias implying they were perfectly fine to use, but now that there is a quote that shows you Cloud had romantic feelings for Tifa you suddenly claim they aren't canon. Really makes you think
I ain't clicking dat shit, if you want to discuss something do it, if not then it's time to gently walk away
Umm...ok. Cursing like a sailor from your end really proves nothing. And if one of you lackey's think that this is cute or VALID on your part then I would be ashamed of myself if I were they. You wouldn't even read what TN said but yet you are picking at me for not reading what you call as "evidence" and being rude. Provide solid references and then we can have a solid discussion.I ain't clicking dat shit, if you want to discuss something do it, if not then it's time to gently walk away
lol what's going onCursing like a sailor from your end really proves nothing
But I just did, I posted pages from a book SE themselves published. Which shows you that Cloud had romantic feelings for Tifa, which was the point of our discussion since you claimed it was never stated that Cloud had feelings for her, no idea why you are freaking out nowProvide solid references and then we can have a solid discussion.
SE never published that book I can assure you. That those words, sentences or page numbers were never quoted from SE or TN. Those were not their words but a fan. Believe me on this. I would be careful. That book has no legitimacy whatso ever. And can be thrown in as a fan's book with the fan's own thoughts. No reference? Not good my friend.But I just did, I posted pages from a book SE themselves published. Which shows you that Cloud had romantic feelings for Tifa, which was the point of our discussion since you claimed it was never stated that Cloud had feelings for her, no idea why you are freaking out now
Albeit it, Cloud never really joined SOLDIER initially for Tifa to notice him, he initially joined SOLDIER to be like Sephiroth.
You're literally ignoring the screenshots from the Lifestream scene where Cloud states he wanted to be noticed by Tifa, smh.
But when the remake comes out and it panes differently then what?
But you yourself used info from the OG to make a point, so again, why should we only look at the remake? Also, those ultimanias are official sources, I dunno what you hope to gain by ignoring them.^^^^^^^Tetsuya Nomura's own words.
Why would a narrator from Cloud’s perspective inside Cloud’s consciousness not be Cloud? This is such a weird point to makeBecause he did say in FFVII OG (PS1) that Cloud wanted Tifa to notice him during the Lifestream (even though it could be a Narrator)
Shouldn’t you show that same level of open-mindedness to what the devs have already explained about the characters they created? Sure, there’s many ways to interpret things but it’s kind of odd to ignore what the creators have already expressed. Like whatever ship you like, but the devs’ words shouldn’t be ignored like that.It is even kind of hard to see Cloud romanticizing with anyone. I mean it is just not Cloud. lol
Let us all take a breather and freshen or lighten up. Don't be so closed-minded.
Again we need to wait for the parts of the Remake (OFFICIALLY) to make any more assumptions. SO let us wait for the remake that is what I am saying.Why would a narrator from Cloud’s perspective inside Cloud’s consciousness not be Cloud? This is such a weird point to make
I have. But you still need to hear and read it from SE and the directors or the developers themselves. With a quote and a name attached so that we know who said this and who said what. It makes life easier for all of us. Because a fan or "devout" lay workers might add their own spin into this and into that. So pay attention to that.Shouldn’t you show that same level of open-mindedness to what the devs have already explained about the characters they created? Sure, there’s many ways to interpret things but it’s kind of odd to ignore what the creators have already expressed. Like whatever ship you like, but the devs’ words shouldn’t be ignored like that.