SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

Rin

Pro Adventurer
This reminded me of when I went to rewatch their last “date” at the end of the game. I was just seeing people say it was non optional and basically proof they are canon, in love with each other, etc.

So I go to re-watch it to see if I misunderstood it and I left it the same way. It wasn’t a confession on either of their parts. Even now if I look it up I see the first YT comment “I love this is non optional, can’t avoid it” as if it that scene is the big reveal of their romantic relationship.

I just don’t get it, I try to, but I can’t. I feel like I gripe about interpretations of that scene over and over but it’s just because it drives me nuts.
Also, you actually can avoid it if you turn Zack's interlude off so that bit them in the ass a little bit.
People could replay the entire game from start to finish and never see it if they turned Zack's scenes off. Or, they could turn it off before getting to that chapter and it'll skip it. Unfortunate. lol
 

GamerSkull

Pro Adventurer
Also, you actually can avoid it if you turn Zack's interlude off so that bit them in the ass a little bit.
People could replay the entire game from start to finish and never see it if they turned Zack's scenes off. Or, they could turn it off before getting to that chapter and it'll skip it. Unfortunate. lol
To be fair, that’s only skippable on a repeat playthrough so I’d still argue it’s not “optional”.

That being said, the tone of the date… although it is sweet that Cloud seems to be reciprocating to what Aerith wants… just does not seem like it ends with any romantic resolution. Or if it ends with a romantic resolution, it is one that is not favorable.
 

Yoru

Pro Adventurer
I just wanted to point out that many people focus too much on the "romantic" aspect of the date...

... when in reality it's not at all. It's not that sort of date. It's Aerith taking advantage of her abilities to do something she's never been able to do in OG :

Bidding farewell to Cloud.

(it's my opinion)
 

Stiggie

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Stiggie
I mean I've been calling it the dream date since the beginning because it happens in Aerith's dream world lol. I don't feel like it's new?
Yeah, it's really weird, I saw margo say something triumphant about this on twitter and I could not figure out why?
 

Maidenofwar

They/Them
I just saw some people say they weren't sure it was a date and even before the game came out a leaker said they didn't think it was a date just them saying goodbye.
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
I just saw some people say they weren't sure it was a date and even before the game came out a leaker said they didn't think it was a date just them saying goodbye.
It's definitely a date since she's recreating at least partly her date with Zack. It's a goodbye for sure, but I also am not sure it's "our" Aerith (hence why there are other goodbyes for her). I mean leakers say things but obviously mostly everyone takes it as a date because uh... it is one.
 

Rin

Pro Adventurer
To be fair, that’s only skippable on a repeat playthrough so I’d still argue it’s not “optional”.

That being said, the tone of the date… although it is sweet that Cloud seems to be reciprocating to what Aerith wants… just does not seem like it ends with any romantic resolution. Or if it ends with a romantic resolution, it is one that is not favorable.
Ya, I agree, I just mean that unlike other "non-optional" scenes, there is a way to completely avoid seeing this one on your replay w/o hitting pause and choosing "skip scene."
 

Yoru

Pro Adventurer
It's definitely a date since she's recreating at least partly her date with Zack. It's a goodbye for sure, but I also am not sure it's "our" Aerith (hence why there are other goodbyes for her). I mean leakers say things but obviously mostly everyone takes it as a date because uh... it is one.
She has her white materia. So her "precious memories"

Pretty sure it's not Rebirth!Aerith. That's the one who knows she's going to die. She just wants to say what she never could to Cloud. Real thanks for the fun of this journey. And Goodbye.
 

Hix

Pro Adventurer
It's quite a popular opinion these days that the LTD is over. Since Rebirth, publications such as Polygon and Siliconera have weighed in to suggest the debate is no more, it's finished and any further discussion is merely performative. There's some truth in these contentions. From a purely rational stand point it's hard to argue that the devs have not nailed their colors to the mast in unambiguous terms. One girl gets a kiss, the other doesn't. One girl spends the game struggling to understand her feelings for Cloud, and he-her in return, the other enjoys a long standing and inherently romantic mutual attraction that never relents.

We've talked before about the significance of the CT kiss, or that moment when Aerith admits to Cloud that she still loves Zack, as being clear and obvious evidence that the LTD is no more, but today I want to talk about the moment in Rebirth in which Clerith dies;

Zack.jpg


Yeah it's not the kiss, it's not even the confession, it's this. The moment Cloud starts remembering Zack - and that Zack loves Aerith - is the moment that CA ends.

What we see here is only the tip of the iceberg for what comes later, but I find it quite remarkable that the devs decided to start the process early. Indeed, it should come as no significance that in the game in which Aerith continues to struggle with her inability to make Cloud the Zack she's yearned for for 5 years, that Cloud himself should start to see a little bit behind the scenes.

He remembers they are friends. He remembers they fought together, albeit he still cannot quite shake off the SOLDIER fantasy. Most pivotally, he remembers that Zack loves Aerith. This fact is reinforced by the scene that Cloud remembers - vis, Zack talking endlessly about Aerith "whether Cloud wants to hear or not."

This is so significant precisely because it happens now, while Aerith is still alive. So often since 1997, CA has been presented as a relationship of "what could have been" but here, unambiguously, the devs have decided to close off that avenue of contemplation. There was minimal, if any, reciprocation by Cloud towards Aerith's advances before but after this scene it is hard to see his actions towards her as anything more than strictly, though lovingly, platonic. Every detail, large and small, even the Gold Saucer date is viewed by Cloud through the lens of his patchwork memories of Zack and how important Aerith is to him.

It's not, again this must be emphasized, a matter of "owning" or denial of one character's freedom to move on. The fact is that the narrative would not put this massive barricade in the way if Clerith was meant to be. Zack did not need to be remembered here. Indeed, Cloti didn't need it's kiss and Zerith it's confession either. One can argue these things are fanservice, but even if that holds weight (and I don't believe it does) then it doesn't change that this is the canon and a reflection of the direction the plot has taken and yet intends to take.

Cloud is honorable, underneath it all. The chances of him understanding how much Aerith meant to Zack and yet deciding to nevertheless pursue a relationship with her, never mind the harm such a relationship would deal to everyone else, is zero. It's narratively unthinkable, a character assassination that simply would not happen in the genre and certainly not in a labor of love like the Remake trilogy.

Now imagine further, when Cloud finally remembers that Zack saved his life and was killed as his reward. The DMW slowly breaking, Zack's final thought is Aerith. He tried to get back to Midgar, literally the lion's den, to be with her - and he would have succeeded were it not for saving Cloud. To suggest Cloud would spit on Zack's grave in such a manner is insulting. Aerith never knew how desperate Zack was to get back to her, but Cloud comes to know and even here, in Rebirth, learns just how much she meant to him.

At this stage they were friends, comrades in arms, brothers. That's already enough. Cloud is many things but not one to stab a friend in the back, no, not even if that friend is gone. He counts them all as precious, he holds them all deeply in his heart. Cleriths cannot handwave this scene away without fundamentally changing who Cloud is and making him out to be a monster. Mercifully that's not who the devs had in mind and we see that, though Cloud does humor Aerith to a degree - including on her Sector 5 recreated "dream date" - it ultimately never goes anywhere. This is not who Cloud is and Aerith's arc is her discovering it's not who she is either.
 

GamerSkull

Pro Adventurer
It's quite a popular opinion these days that the LTD is over. Since Rebirth, publications such as Polygon and Siliconera have weighed in to suggest the debate is no more, it's finished and any further discussion is merely performative. There's some truth in these contentions. From a purely rational stand point it's hard to argue that the devs have not nailed their colors to the mast in unambiguous terms. One girl gets a kiss, the other doesn't. One girl spends the game struggling to understand her feelings for Cloud, and he-her in return, the other enjoys a long standing and inherently romantic mutual attraction that never relents.

We've talked before about the significance of the CT kiss, or that moment when Aerith admits to Cloud that she still loves Zack, as being clear and obvious evidence that the LTD is no more, but today I want to talk about the moment in Rebirth in which Clerith dies;

View attachment 15428


Yeah it's not the kiss, it's not even the confession, it's this. The moment Cloud starts remembering Zack - and that Zack loves Aerith - is the moment that CA ends.

What we see here is only the tip of the iceberg for what comes later, but I find it quite remarkable that the devs decided to start the process early. Indeed, it should come as no significance that in the game in which Aerith continues to struggle with her inability to make Cloud the Zack she's yearned for for 5 years, that Cloud himself should start to see a little bit behind the scenes.

He remembers they are friends. He remembers they fought together, albeit he still cannot quite shake off the SOLDIER fantasy. Most pivotally, he remembers that Zack loves Aerith. This fact is reinforced by the scene that Cloud remembers - vis, Zack talking endlessly about Aerith "whether Cloud wants to hear or not."

This is so significant precisely because it happens now, while Aerith is still alive. So often since 1997, CA has been presented as a relationship of "what could have been" but here, unambiguously, the devs have decided to close off that avenue of contemplation. There was minimal, if any, reciprocation by Cloud towards Aerith's advances before but after this scene it is hard to see his actions towards her as anything more than strictly, though lovingly, platonic. Every detail, large and small, even the Gold Saucer date is viewed by Cloud through the lens of his patchwork memories of Zack and how important Aerith is to him.

It's not, again this must be emphasized, a matter of "owning" or denial of one character's freedom to move on. The fact is that the narrative would not put this massive barricade in the way if Clerith was meant to be. Zack did not need to be remembered here. Indeed, Cloti didn't need it's kiss and Zerith it's confession either. One can argue these things are fanservice, but even if that holds weight (and I don't believe it does) then it doesn't change that this is the canon and a reflection of the direction the plot has taken and yet intends to take.

Cloud is honorable, underneath it all. The chances of him understanding how much Aerith meant to Zack and yet deciding to nevertheless pursue a relationship with her, never mind the harm such a relationship would deal to everyone else, is zero. It's narratively unthinkable, a character assassination that simply would not happen in the genre and certainly not in a labor of love like the Remake trilogy.

Now imagine further, when Cloud finally remembers that Zack saved his life and was killed as his reward. The DMW slowly breaking, Zack's final thought is Aerith. He tried to get back to Midgar, literally the lion's den, to be with her - and he would have succeeded were it not for saving Cloud. To suggest Cloud would spit on Zack's grave in such a manner is insulting. Aerith never knew how desperate Zack was to get back to her, but Cloud comes to know and even here, in Rebirth, learns just how much she meant to him.

At this stage they were friends, comrades in arms, brothers. That's already enough. Cloud is many things but not one to stab a friend in the back, no, not even if that friend is gone. He counts them all as precious, he holds them all deeply in his heart. Cleriths cannot handwave this scene away without fundamentally changing who Cloud is and making him out to be a monster. Mercifully that's not who the devs had in mind and we see that, though Cloud does humor Aerith to a degree - including on her Sector 5 recreated "dream date" - it ultimately never goes anywhere. This is not who Cloud is and Aerith's arc is her discovering it's not who she is either.
Yeah, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If Cloud had feelings for Aerith, the effectively died the moment he remembered Zack…

Agree with everything here.
 

Maidenofwar

They/Them
So here again is my problem apparently the booklet for the soundtrack shows the CA scenes, why does marketing do this, wouldn't it be better to tell an honest story.
 

nars305

🎵 I am so, so bored 🎶
It's quite a popular opinion these days that the LTD is over. Since Rebirth, publications such as Polygon and Siliconera have weighed in to suggest the debate is no more, it's finished and any further discussion is merely performative. There's some truth in these contentions. From a purely rational stand point it's hard to argue that the devs have not nailed their colors to the mast in unambiguous terms. One girl gets a kiss, the other doesn't. One girl spends the game struggling to understand her feelings for Cloud, and he-her in return, the other enjoys a long standing and inherently romantic mutual attraction that never relents.

We've talked before about the significance of the CT kiss, or that moment when Aerith admits to Cloud that she still loves Zack, as being clear and obvious evidence that the LTD is no more, but today I want to talk about the moment in Rebirth in which Clerith dies;

View attachment 15428


Yeah it's not the kiss, it's not even the confession, it's this. The moment Cloud starts remembering Zack - and that Zack loves Aerith - is the moment that CA ends.

What we see here is only the tip of the iceberg for what comes later, but I find it quite remarkable that the devs decided to start the process early. Indeed, it should come as no significance that in the game in which Aerith continues to struggle with her inability to make Cloud the Zack she's yearned for for 5 years, that Cloud himself should start to see a little bit behind the scenes.

He remembers they are friends. He remembers they fought together, albeit he still cannot quite shake off the SOLDIER fantasy. Most pivotally, he remembers that Zack loves Aerith. This fact is reinforced by the scene that Cloud remembers - vis, Zack talking endlessly about Aerith "whether Cloud wants to hear or not."

This is so significant precisely because it happens now, while Aerith is still alive. So often since 1997, CA has been presented as a relationship of "what could have been" but here, unambiguously, the devs have decided to close off that avenue of contemplation. There was minimal, if any, reciprocation by Cloud towards Aerith's advances before but after this scene it is hard to see his actions towards her as anything more than strictly, though lovingly, platonic. Every detail, large and small, even the Gold Saucer date is viewed by Cloud through the lens of his patchwork memories of Zack and how important Aerith is to him.

It's not, again this must be emphasized, a matter of "owning" or denial of one character's freedom to move on. The fact is that the narrative would not put this massive barricade in the way if Clerith was meant to be. Zack did not need to be remembered here. Indeed, Cloti didn't need it's kiss and Zerith it's confession either. One can argue these things are fanservice, but even if that holds weight (and I don't believe it does) then it doesn't change that this is the canon and a reflection of the direction the plot has taken and yet intends to take.

Cloud is honorable, underneath it all. The chances of him understanding how much Aerith meant to Zack and yet deciding to nevertheless pursue a relationship with her, never mind the harm such a relationship would deal to everyone else, is zero. It's narratively unthinkable, a character assassination that simply would not happen in the genre and certainly not in a labor of love like the Remake trilogy.

Now imagine further, when Cloud finally remembers that Zack saved his life and was killed as his reward. The DMW slowly breaking, Zack's final thought is Aerith. He tried to get back to Midgar, literally the lion's den, to be with her - and he would have succeeded were it not for saving Cloud. To suggest Cloud would spit on Zack's grave in such a manner is insulting. Aerith never knew how desperate Zack was to get back to her, but Cloud comes to know and even here, in Rebirth, learns just how much she meant to him.

At this stage they were friends, comrades in arms, brothers. That's already enough. Cloud is many things but not one to stab a friend in the back, no, not even if that friend is gone. He counts them all as precious, he holds them all deeply in his heart. Cleriths cannot handwave this scene away without fundamentally changing who Cloud is and making him out to be a monster. Mercifully that's not who the devs had in mind and we see that, though Cloud does humor Aerith to a degree - including on her Sector 5 recreated "dream date" - it ultimately never goes anywhere. This is not who Cloud is and Aerith's arc is her discovering it's not who she is either.
Very good points, enjoyed reading!

It also adds to Cloud’s guilt I feel like. Not only does he feel guilt for Zack dying for him but also for not saving the girl Zack loved.
 

GamerSkull

Pro Adventurer
So here again is my problem apparently the booklet for the soundtrack shows the CA scenes, why does marketing do this, wouldn't it be better to tell an honest story.
Booklet for that song, or just the entire soundtrack?

The reason CA scenes are shown is because Cloud and Aerith share a deep bond. It just doesn’t necessarily end in a happy way. And doesn’t necessarily culminate in mutual romance.

But yes, I agree that the devs should pick a lane and stick to it.
 

shady

Pro Adventurer
I think it's safe to say the likes of Nojima and Nomura have absolutely no input into what pictures go into the booklet of the soundtrack of the game, they got better things to spend their time on than that. That's why they have marketing and merchandise departments at SE.

Unless the Ultimania wants to prove me wrong in a few days or one of the devs come out and says "Yup, we chose to put this in the booklet for a reason and it's because of Clerith," in which case i'll gladly admit I was wrong, then If people are basing what's canon or "Clerith confirmed" over the pictures of the book then we truly are picking up breadcrumbs from the floor at this point.
 

Rin

Pro Adventurer
Cloud is honorable, underneath it all. The chances of him understanding how much Aerith meant to Zack and yet deciding to nevertheless pursue a relationship with her, never mind the harm such a relationship would deal to everyone else, is zero. It's narratively unthinkable, a character assassination that simply would not happen in the genre and certainly not in a labor of love like the Remake trilogy.

Such a good post as always, Hix. This part in particular brings me back to a tweet I made earlier this year about my personal feelings toward CA and why it doesn't work for me romantically. Cloud loves Zack. He loves him to the point of being unable to accept and face his death. He loves him so much that he would rather erase him and emulate him vs. live in the constant pain, grief, and suffering of remembering that loss. He can't take it. He vowed not to forget but he couldn't function while knowing the truth.

While he's in a better place (barely) now, remembering Zack in Nibelheim triggers something in him. On the date with Aerith at Gold Saucer, he won't even look her in the eye. He can't face her. He's carrying so much guilt and shame just knowing that Zack is dead and will never come home to her. And there's no doubt that he's uncomfortable with the idea that he reminds her so much of Zack; he basically starts squirming immediately when she says so and asks if Tifa has talked to her yet.

Just the idea of being on a date with his dead friends girlfriend is causing him emotional distress and it's always been interesting to me that certain fans believe he could just move on from that w/o a second thought. This is the same guy who gets crushed under his survivors guilt two years later and begins wondering if he ever deserved a happy ending at all, because why should he when he 1) forgot Zack and 2) "Let Aerith die"? Being in a relationship with Aerith would wreck him, honestly, and that's not something I want for him or for her.

And, on that same note, I have a hard time believing that Aerith's feelings for Cloud could continue to grow romantically once she learned the full story of what happened. I don't believe she would hold a grudge against Cloud for Zack's death because she's not that kind of person, but she's also not perfect and she would need to reconcile with the fact that Zack is gone because he was protecting Cloud. That's the type of man Zack was, so it's a fitting end for him but it wouldn't make it any less difficult for her to know about. So, every time she looks at Cloud she'll be forced to face that fact.

This is the same girl who couldn't talk to him after seeing Nibelheim because she was angry about her own life circumstances, so I think there would be a time where Aerith probably couldn't look at Cloud for a while yet. And then where exactly would they take it from there? Real Cloud would be apologetic and guilt-ridden about "playing SOLDIER" in the wake of Zack's death and Aerith would then be in a position of having to make Cloud feel better about all of that, which is pretty unfair to her. I don't see how their relationship could recover enough from all of that to enter a romantic relationship. Their friendship could bounce back, absolutely, but ... to be in a committed, loving relationship seems very unrealistic to me.

And that's not even taking into consideration that Cloud at his core is just Tifa Tifa Tifa Tifa Tifa Tifa.
 

GamerSkull

Pro Adventurer
I think it's safe to say the likes of Nojima and Nomura have absolutely no input into what pictures go into the booklet of the soundtrack of the game, they got better things to spend their time on than that. That's why they have marketing and merchandise departments at SE.

Unless the Ultimania wants to prove me wrong in a few days or one of the devs come out and says "Yup, we chose to put this in the booklet for a reason and it's because of Clerith," in which case i'll gladly admit I was wrong, then If people are basing what's canon or "Clerith confirmed" over the pictures of the book then we truly are picking up breadcrumbs from the floor at this point.
Yeah. Good point.

Marketing aside, any actual evidence should come directly from events depicted in the game.

Because you can be 100% sure those are done by authorial intent.

Marketing comes from the studio itself.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
People are way too focused on this non-optional/optional thing.

Would be funny if in a couple days the Ultimania’s like “so yeah, all the dates are canon.”
I mean, I've been acting as if they all are for over a decade now. No skin off my nose and it's funny.

I mean I've been calling it the dream date since the beginning because it happens in Aerith's dream world lol. I don't feel like it's new?
I disagree about it being a "dream world" but it happens when Cloud himself is asleep and fits the Aerith definition of a date so it still fits.

It's quite a popular opinion these days that the LTD is over. Since Rebirth, publications such as Polygon and Siliconera have weighed in to suggest the debate is no more, it's finished and any further discussion is merely performative.

Only took them a decade after my stellar reporting, but go on.

There's some truth in these contentions. From a purely rational stand point it's hard to argue that the devs have not nailed their colors to the mast in unambiguous terms. One girl gets a kiss, the other doesn't. One girl spends the game struggling to understand her feelings for Cloud, and he-her in return, the other enjoys a long standing and inherently romantic mutual attraction that never relents.

We've talked before about the significance of the CT kiss, or that moment when Aerith admits to Cloud that she still loves Zack, as being clear and obvious evidence that the LTD is no more, but today I want to talk about the moment in Rebirth in which Clerith dies;

View attachment 15428


Yeah it's not the kiss, it's not even the confession, it's this. The moment Cloud starts remembering Zack - and that Zack loves Aerith - is the moment that CA ends.

What we see here is only the tip of the iceberg for what comes later, but I find it quite remarkable that the devs decided to start the process early. Indeed, it should come as no significance that in the game in which Aerith continues to struggle with her inability to make Cloud the Zack she's yearned for for 5 years, that Cloud himself should start to see a little bit behind the scenes.

He remembers they are friends. He remembers they fought together, albeit he still cannot quite shake off the SOLDIER fantasy. Most pivotally, he remembers that Zack loves Aerith. This fact is reinforced by the scene that Cloud remembers - vis, Zack talking endlessly about Aerith "whether Cloud wants to hear or not."

This is so significant precisely because it happens now, while Aerith is still alive. So often since 1997, CA has been presented as a relationship of "what could have been" but here, unambiguously, the devs have decided to close off that avenue of contemplation. There was minimal, if any, reciprocation by Cloud towards Aerith's advances before but after this scene it is hard to see his actions towards her as anything more than strictly, though lovingly, platonic. Every detail, large and small, even the Gold Saucer date is viewed by Cloud through the lens of his patchwork memories of Zack and how important Aerith is to him.

It's not, again this must be emphasized, a matter of "owning" or denial of one character's freedom to move on. The fact is that the narrative would not put this massive barricade in the way if Clerith was meant to be. Zack did not need to be remembered here. Indeed, Cloti didn't need it's kiss and Zerith it's confession either. One can argue these things are fanservice, but even if that holds weight (and I don't believe it does) then it doesn't change that this is the canon and a reflection of the direction the plot has taken and yet intends to take.

Cloud is honorable, underneath it all. The chances of him understanding how much Aerith meant to Zack and yet deciding to nevertheless pursue a relationship with her, never mind the harm such a relationship would deal to everyone else, is zero. It's narratively unthinkable, a character assassination that simply would not happen in the genre and certainly not in a labor of love like the Remake trilogy.

Now imagine further, when Cloud finally remembers that Zack saved his life and was killed as his reward. The DMW slowly breaking, Zack's final thought is Aerith. He tried to get back to Midgar, literally the lion's den, to be with her - and he would have succeeded were it not for saving Cloud. To suggest Cloud would spit on Zack's grave in such a manner is insulting. Aerith never knew how desperate Zack was to get back to her, but Cloud comes to know and even here, in Rebirth, learns just how much she meant to him.

At this stage they were friends, comrades in arms, brothers. That's already enough. Cloud is many things but not one to stab a friend in the back, no, not even if that friend is gone. He counts them all as precious, he holds them all deeply in his heart. Cleriths cannot handwave this scene away without fundamentally changing who Cloud is and making him out to be a monster. Mercifully that's not who the devs had in mind and we see that, though Cloud does humor Aerith to a degree - including on her Sector 5 recreated "dream date" - it ultimately never goes anywhere. This is not who Cloud is and Aerith's arc is her discovering it's not who she is either.
Agreed 100% Even if Cloud had any romantic feelings for Aerith prior, remembering that his best friend was in love with her and vice versa would kill them completely. Cloud was genuinely friends with Zack, they confided in each other. I 100% believe had the Nibelheim event not evented itself over everyone, Zack would have told Cloud to confess and reunite before everyone left. Cloud would not want to make either Zack or Aerith feel awkward and that's why his first thought that Aerith needs closure, so she can know Zack died loving her and didn't run after someone else like he thinks she believes.
 

Yoru

Pro Adventurer
So here again is my problem apparently the booklet for the soundtrack shows the CA scenes, why does marketing do this, wouldn't it be better to tell an honest story.
Maybe you're the one (the Clerith, not you specifically) at fault.

Devs tried to tell you. Cody (Cloud VA) tried to warn you.

A male and a female sharing moments together doesn't mean AUTOMATICALY Romance and so on. Marketing or devs have not to forbid themselves to use Cloud and Aerith imagery. It's an important pairing of this series. It's just not a romantic one. Period.

Cloud and Aerith love each other. ALWAYS HAVE. ALWAYS WILL. But it's not the love you want. That's all.
 

GamerSkull

Pro Adventurer
Maybe you're the one (the Clerith, not you specifically) at fault.

Devs tried to tell you. Cody (Cloud VA) tried to warn you.

A male and a female sharing moments together doesn't mean AUTOMATICALY Romance and so on. Marketing or devs have not to forbid themselves to use Cloud and Aerith imagery. It's an important pairing of this series. It's just not a romantic one. Period.

Cloud and Aerith love each other. ALWAYS HAVE. ALWAYS WILL. But it's not the love you want. That's all.
Yup, Cloud and Aerith can still share a deep bond even if it’s not a romantic one. So that bond will still be depicted as it is important.

There’s an assumption here that CA imagery automatically indicates romance by some people.
 
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