Out of all the hate characters get from Cleriths, this is easily my least favourite. It's such a fucking insulting thing to say about a woman, especially considering we're talking about Tifa and everything she's done for him.
I honestly suspect there's some form of transference going on. They dislike her because her looks remind them of someone or some idea they have of women who look like that, since it's nothing like the Tifa we know of in the games and film.
Sorry for the double post but is this the person I've been hearing people say that they don't even like Aerith?
Yes, Cali has said that. She just hated Tifa more and saw Aerith as the least bad option for Cloud. I suspect she was a self inserter, though you have to wonder why with how bad a person her Cloud was when you looked at him in the bigger picture.
In general I think it makes most sense if both girls always do something, which is why I believe that tifa as Rosa should have been non-optional.
It helps balance their screen presence, yeah.
More than married, less than lovers. Or "Fuufuijou koibito miman" (I think)
Danke.
I remember calling someone out on YouTube once that I was having a discussion with. Was one of those classic "clerith going 'I am a cloti but'" types.
I thought they reminded me suspiciously of someone else I'd argued with, so I said something along the lines of: "the only time I've ever heard a take this insane was by a person named darkmoon, and they had the exact same writing style as well".
They responded by saying that was their brother....yeah sure
What was that argument out of curiosity?
Oh, I just had flashbacks to the many debates where responses were essentially copy/pasted whole passages from that bible, or from clerith.com.
At the very least, I'm relieved that their affection scoresheet doesn't seem to be in use anymore.
I'm trying to remember the affection scoresheet. Was it that really terrible set of JPGs that came out around AC or am I thinking of something else?
As a woman well endowed like Tifa, I will say this: the first thing that I noticed, is that her gown is normally a dress for women with small breasts, but this one has been tweaked specifically for women well endowed.
As a Tifa fan, the second thing I noticed is how the design in itself fits Tifa (with all the leather etc.).
That led me to believe that this dress has been made for Tifa; it's also the only one that she gets in GS, contrarily to Yuffie (GS entrance with her green outfit) and Aerith (the singer's dress).
Those are good points, yes. The color scheme and material fit Tifa more than either other lady.
And someone noticed that:
And I certainly can spot the similarities, and I clearly see the 7 adorning the staff now (which is Tifa's number).
This isn't the place for it exactly, but this reminds me, does anyone else think Aerith's final staff in Rebirth is actually a Cetra laser rifle of some sort?
IIRC she's been caught saying that from what I heard yes. I also know for sure she's been banned from a certain forum for having like 10 dupes.
If you mean this forum, as far as I recall, I never explicitly banned her, merely every single one of her dupes. If not this one, which other one was she caught at?
why is there a new Blue baby theory with the new baby weapons....
Do I need to break out Water Tower Baby Denzel again for these people?
Cali is who I was thinking of, that's the bunny. BB absolutely remains the type to talk to a shameless dupe spammer and take advantage.
I've noticed in my traipse back through time that what BB didn't recite from the pre-written spiels was often attempts to throw my words back at me. Like her repeated use of "common sense" was echoing my usage of it at her from almost a decade prior. I had forgotten it. She had not. Amazing to live rent free in someone's head like that.
True enough, the subtle twist has its own distinct flavor of satisfaction. I do find upon examination I love "this was never quite what you thought twists" just as much as "things will never be the same again" twists.
In a romantic sense, I love the "What, X doesn't like me!" "Oh yes X does" -SUDDEN SHOCK OF REALIZATION AS YEARS OF INTERACTIONS RECONTEXTUALIZE- type twist. Like how Amy thinks Rory would be the perfect boyfriend for her but she thinks he's gay because he's never shown interest in a woman and he's always hanging around with her and OH"
Fair play, I know I've thoroughly enjoyed spending time on characters with Squall's overall motivation. "Not letting anyone get close so I don't get hurt" isn't exactly rare after all, doesn't basically everyone Spider-Person go through that one a few times? Excepting Miles Morales maybe? It's a trope like any other, a good tool, and it seems like being at least a little insufferable is often enough part of that mindset anyway. So Squall may work for me personally better than he used to. I still prefer my insufferably edgy loners with a gooey center of "let's mosey, I cherish everyone" if course.
There's also the "push them away so I don't hurt them either" part, which is what takes him from antisocial to empathetic in a twisted wounded way.
Lines like this, you're gonna make folks forget which of us is named Devil
You're the devil they know. I, on the other hand...
And it gave me a chance to reference Nier in this discussion. Win/win
Aye. I need to go back and finish that remaster, come to think of it.
We can but hope said learning continues.
Agreed.
Oh yeah, I was remembering clearly after all. I swear half of more of her posts were just cut and paste from her pink holy book, with maybe a new insult tacked on the end. Citing herself as a source is exactly what I meant about her character fitting with a dupe spam approach to "debate" as well. It's both sad and funny how little has changed.
She's legitimately gotten worse over time.
It's like a non-lethal, words only version of Purge Night
No hesitation, no remorse, just good times.
Man, this makes me believe that some of these people don’t actually understand Cloud’s character at all. Even the ones who purport to love him so much that they hate Tifa for treating him like shit. More accurately, they don’t understand any of the characters.
I remember some time ago one of them admitted that she's never played the original game and still thought she knew the characters better than anyone else.
I hope Nojima's stated aim of leaving little up to interpretation holds true for ZA as much as it seems to for CT.
Reason I say this is because I see rehashing Maiden is now back in vogue on Twitter. Zack is apparently a sidepiece and is not worthy of Aerith who deserves the main character (conveniently forgetting Crisis Core was a thing). Not to mention the "main piece" sure seems to love emulating said sidepiece through most of the game (in non-delusional discourse, this "sidepiece" would actually be called the OG).
How could Aerith ending up in the lifestream with him be a good ending, especially since she clearly wants Cloud.
Too bad they can't call Zack a fucboy anymore like he was in Maiden (they still try).
Even Maiden isn't good for C/A. Aerith calls up Zack trying to remember the things that made cloud Unique (oops) and even as she 'rejects' Zack her lines are awful flirty, and Aerith herself gives Cloud and Tifa her blessing during the course of the story.
Well, it's not a "good" ending for either of them - that's the point and it is beyond tragic. We take them being together in death as a sort of solace. If Zackbros can accept it, Aerith stans should be able to come to terms with it, too. As it is, they want to reduce him to a platonic plaything to keep her company in LS while she pines for Cloud. This is disgusting, imo. I'd rather Zack just never reunited with her if this is what's planned (I know it's not, but the relentless gaslighting sometimes causes doubt). How can people read a story and it's direction so wrong, it's mind-boggling.
It's all so tiring. Nojima, just please clear this up in the last game. Another 3 years of this....
Also, would not refuse a recontextualized lifestream ending where Zack and Aerith get shipped off to their own bubble world to give them something more positive. Seems unlikely, tho, sadly. I'll take what I can get.
I think this might be what's happening? Future Aerith, what people are calling Omni-Aerith might be trying to pull a sneaky with timelines just so she can give her other self and Zack a happy ending.
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