Oh yes. By all means, throw bullshit at your heros and heroines, but have them conquer those hardships through luck, pluck, and their own attributes.
This for days.
Funnily enough they're also involved in the biggest "love debate" in the FE fandom because as I mentioned, they are characters in a prequel game to the one that stars their kids, and for the longest time who the mother was had never been officially confirmed. It seems to have died down with the coming of the gacha game and their interactions there. (The plot is vaguely like Dissidia in that it's an excuse to have a bunch of characters who could never meet show up and fight together).
Gacha ruins everything
And yeah that kind of crossover was a popular trend for a bit. I try to forget Castlevania attempted it.
And when they argued against the bullshit argument I gave no credit to, I'd point out what they were doing and point out how their arguments hurt their own positions.
To be fair, nearly everything they said hurt their positions in some way. Even if just by wrecking their credibility.
You have to get so invested in games you never play.
For quite a few CAltist types, you just described the OG
Remember with Itadaki/ Fortune Street was absolutely proving C/A canon, only for Aerith and Angelo from FF8 to flirt in their interactions on the board? (Also remember it's mario party/ monopoly for Enix characters)
I do recall that, if only thanks to some shit posting along the lines of "And to think you keep calling Tifa a slut while Aerith is trying to bone Angelo."
The wrong lesson in the end, but they learned something.
As I said, it's
like progress.
I told you how I realized she was actually trying to throw that line back in my face because I said it to her regarding things like "They formed a family together, they share a future together, she's a special woman to him, he belongs with her. It's just common sense that the person she'd be the beloved of is that man."
Indeed. After a while she just tacked it onto everything like punctuation.
I think I may have legitimately broken BB's brain.
It was cracked when you got there. Shatterpoint happened.
Yeah, hearing the actual emotion in Cloud's voice and the difference in the way he cares about both women must be smarting.
Someone put up a Rebirth Cloti interaction montage. These fries are bland, I could use some salt
I do the same. It's funny because my wife will call them a little fucker and still feel bad when I plonk a rock on their head.
I mean, they did steal Hestu's ability to play his maracas and hide from him as a prank. Little fucker certainly applies. But then they're tiny and cute and they love Mr. Hero and want to help so bad. So yeah, both positions coexist just fine.
It would require actual acts of reflection and perhaps contrition. Especially for all the peddled lies.
Contrition from people like BB. I'm definitely not gonna hold my breath, that's for sure.
It's not even before all the weirdness starts like the game pretends and there's so many places to put a death or near death experience later in the game. Like if you told me Squall momentarily does die at the end of the game but is pulled back at the end due to his connection with Rinoa anchoring him in time, I'd believe that.
I'm now picturing Squall in Wally West's Flash suit. I blame you for this.
I'd say it needed to be established better, 8 needed more time in the oven in the localization at the very minimum, but I could see it.
This is why I try not to complain molain about long development times. So many bad games that could have been good, good games that could have been great. Just need to bake a bit more.
Angelalex was the guy who was very very adamant that Cloud was searching for Aerith in the end of AC and would reunite with her in the flower fields for spirit sex. He wrote a fanfic about it. I believe he also claimed to have shown his girlfriend's 3rd grade class AC as an experiment to see which of the ladies Cloud was in love with.
He also got very mad if you called him Angela Lex.
Oh ew, now I remember. Flower field spirit sex is one of the wildest fuckin' takes of all time. And I recall a sort of hushed silence over everything after they dragged kids into this. Before the floodgate opened, anyway.
Very much worth a laugh.
They're not even all that good at it, either.
They're really not.
Indeed. But anything for their desired outcome, natch.
At all costs and whatnot.
You give them the benefit of the doubt, basically.
Enough benefit to not see the true depths they sink to at least.
The CAltist is a toxic animal native to the internet, if you come across one...
Attenborough voice? It works.
Oh yeah, it's still more than a 5:1 difference.
I like those odds.
If I ever get around to it I plan to stream it somehow.
Sounds like a plan.
Pretty much.
Not parsing this one, but that's because my brain is stuck on Lawrence Welk and he's a musician not a reporter.
Lawrence Welk was my first thought too, it felt too obvious for me. I think I went too far the other way. Also that the news man I had in mind is less old timey than I thought... I may have partially conflated the two actually.
Alright, we'll bring out... the tingler.
I suddenly feel like I need a couple drinks. Wonder what that's all about.
Yuffie: The lesson is, I need to cheat harder.
Cloud: THAT IS NOT THE LESSON.
Surprisingly it was Barret who chuckled and said "It kinda is."
That's a good coffee shop name.
Inorite? That and Brewed Awakening were my jams.
One minute the corner's empty, the next, Vincent.
I'll say this for Rebirth Vinnie, he looks like someone who could mag dump on some dumbass kid without flinching. It's those eyes.
I'm flexible with my weaponry.
Same. Could swear I recall you having a particular fondness for battle axes though.
I like it too but it's an easy punchline to make given it's the previous FF movie and was generally poorly received. So much of that falls on the decision to call it FINAL FANTASY The Spirits Within rather than The Spirits Within a final fantasy movie.
You gave a point, it really set the wrong expectations.
Exactly. People gotta be willing to want to learn though.
Tis the way of the world.
Oh it's an old one. Might be a bit regional.
Then in the interest of accuracy, I'll amend my statement. I hope it catches on around here
And at times, that is absolutely the way to do things. He just never modulated his response even an iota.
Vendel didn't have any settings under 10, and mostly the knob was stuck on 11.
Phone companies, IIRC. You got a phone number and an email account when you bought a phone plan, and the two were tied together.
That's wild.
At least it was slightly more subtle on-screen than some examples we could name.
Dissidia is the one they insisted was Clerith because of the flower field in the ending and the half finished line. 012 is where it clobbers you over the head that the one Cloud wants to meet is Tifa.
Skull caved in levels of clobbering.
Some people need to dots connected for them.
We have you for that
I'm still not sure where the idea that holding hands was the truest expression of love came from. That and the idea that Lover's tie only refers to that.
A desperate desire for it to be true. That's where it's coming from.
Denial is a powerful drug.
Its one of the main ingredients in Copium after all.
Hardcore Clerith arguments change moment to moment to argue against a specific thing. There is no need for narrative synthesis when Aerith is winning, after all.
The only argument they have is Aerith Wins Cause I Want Her To. The rest is just window dressing.
Free? I'll take a dozen of everyone, then.
Wow, your pantry is way more spacious than mine.
Oh, you meant Libre, not Gratis. Darn.
Win.
