LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

The one he lives with or the dead one?

  • Living

    Votes: 96 88.9%
  • Dead

    Votes: 12 11.1%

  • Total voters
    108
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Isabella

Your Mom
Others who've played the game have felt the same way. And with that I bow out of the Dissidia convo, seeing as only true fanboys and girls can see the Holy Truth. Ughhhh
 

Cookie Monster

NOM NOM NOM
Hey, quit ignoring me and tell me what in the hell we're talking about here. I haven't participated in quality FF discussion in about three years. I WANT TO IN THE KNOW. COME ON GUYS.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Others who've played the game have felt the same way. And with that I bow out of the Dissidia convo, seeing as only true fanboys and girls can see the Holy Truth. Ughhhh

And others said the Holy materia was Cloud's crystal and that the Great Gospel accessory was a gift to Cloud. While others have said the game was fucking epic and great nod to FF's 20th Anniversary.

Anyways thank you for the victory. :geek:
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Really? I thought koibito just meant that it was one of Tifa's traits. That she's like a lover to everyone, not to anyone specifically. Hmm.
 

Isabella

Your Mom
Cloud could be happy with the kids and still have problems with Tifa. It just means Tifa isn't the thing making him happy.
It was the kids who brought him joy guys, despite Tifa making him miserable. Tough choice. Do you stay for the sake of the children, despite that succubus in the kitchen?
 

Vendel

Banned
It was the kids who brought him joy guys, despite Tifa making him miserable. Tough choice. Do you stay for the sake of the children, despite that succubus in the kitchen?


You placate her with fake smiles.

I think the smile was obviously fake. Cloud seemed to be looking for a way to end the conversation. The short silence seems to be him trying to say to himself "Yeah, that's right. Aerith IS GONE. I'm just deluding myself." Then he smiles so he doesn't have to say anything else. Then later he leaves for Aerith's church. (or just leaves)
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I think Cloud's fake smile was one of reassurance.
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It does seem like all Cloud wanted to do was end the conversation. He just found out that his hope of Aerith bringing him this little boy was literally just shat on. And he really needed to know that it was Aerith who led Denzel to him, and Tifa told him he was wrong. That had to have sucked to be in that situation.

I got an awkward feeling from that silence and the wording "...finally smiled" because, that does come off forced or fake.
And if it was supposed to be all mushy I think the writer should have put more to the sentence instead of just saying he stared at her then finally smiled.

But they didn't. It was just empty--like his smile.

And BTW how dare Tifa try and insert herself in Clouds life? I mean why would a koibito friend collage roommate do that?
 
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Neutron Ronnie

From The Front of Armament
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Powerslave
And BTW how dare Tifa try and insert herself in Clouds life? I mean why would a koibito friend college roommate do that?

Damn, man, that woman just can't take a no. It sounds like she's the kind of creepy chick who'd wake up at the crack of dawn and lie in wait for Cloud to make sure he can't sneak out of the house undetected...
 

Isabella

Your Mom
That smile scene is told like the rest of CoT -- through Tifa's eyes. And a grieving Tifa who has just lost her partner at that. They think the scene should have been more mushy for the smile to hold any meaning? Would Tifa have viewed it as mushy and romantic as she looked back on why he might have left?
 

Neutron Ronnie

From The Front of Armament
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Powerslave
Actually, if we're talking about the same smile, I do believe Tifa recalls it as being full of kindness?

Edit: Nm, she seems to wonder later on if it was an illusion. :monster:
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
And we don't care, nor do the devs.

whoa whoa... Drake's upset... look out, rabid Drake on the loose :awesome:

Cloud could be happy with the kids and still have problems with Tifa. It just means Tifa isn't the thing making him happy.
Oh that's Cali :monster:

I think the smile was obviously fake. Cloud seemed to be looking for a way to end the conversation. The short silence seems to be him trying to say to himself "Yeah, that's right. Aerith IS GONE. I'm just deluding myself." Then he smiles so he doesn't have to say anything else. Then later he leaves for Aerith's church. (or just leaves)
I don't think either FFG or Cali would say "Aerith IS GONE" I don't think Anastar would say it either... but... It's one of those three so I'm gonna guess FFG, she's the most blunt who'd possibly say that to make a point. Cali would too but it doesn't seem like her style.

It does seem like all Cloud wanted to do was end the conversation. ...-like his smile.

That has to be Cali.

Sorry I'm having fun with this :monster:
I guess they're trying to figure out WHY Nomura would say they make Cloud happy, and are trying to say he just means the kids or something.
 

Isabella

Your Mom
whoa whoa... Drake's upset... look out, rabid Drake on the loose
He and Mako are upset that I didn't initially recognize Cloud's subplot as the masterpiece that it is. But I now have seen the light. Tomorrow's literary scholars will give lectures on Cloud's Side Story (henceforth known as CSS) and how it changed the face of fiction as we know it. It was my own short-sightedness that initially prevented me from seeing the magnificence, but you know what they say -- true artists are never appreciated in their time. :awesome:
I guess they're trying to figure out WHY Nomura would say they make Cloud happy
You know what, when I read CoT I saw Cloud as happy, up until the point where he delivers the flowers and starts his downward spiral. I don't see where the problem lies. He's making mushies with Tifa, he's pursuing and building his bike, he's helping her with the business and talking about the future ... where's the misery?
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
He and Mako are upset that I didn't initially recognize Cloud's subplot as the masterpiece that it is. But I now have seen the light. Tomorrow's literary scholars will give lectures on Cloud's Side Story (henceforth known as CSS) and how it changed the face of fiction as we know it. It was my own short-sightedness that initially prevented me from seeing the magnificence, but you know what they say -- true artists are never appreciated in their time. :awesome:

Gosh..you..you really know how to make a guy feel special. Thank you..so much.

You know what, when I read CoT I saw Cloud as happy, up until the point where he delivers the flowers and starts his downward spiral. I don't see where the problem lies. He's making mushies with Tifa, he's pursuing and building his bike, he's helping her with the business and talking about the future ... where's the misery?

Pretty much. Somehow I think its the pink goggles kinda distorting the imagery here.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
Yeah same here, some people say they don't show us Cloud's happy but when I brought up that he was happy until he had to deliver the flowers I got told the interpretation story. Well whatdayaknow my interpretation is the same as the creators? :awesome:

That's one thing I love about being a Cloti. The creators statements make sense and you don't have to analyze anything.
 
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