Mass Effect Series

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Mr. Thou
AKA
null
LOL what a clusterfuck. At least pissed fans are delivering the goods.

I had Kaidan in my playthrough.
And from the sounds of things he was just as wishy-washy as Ash was. SHEPARD YOU WORKED FOR CERBERUS HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING SHEPARD HOW COULD YOU HAVE TRUSTED CERBERUS SHEPARD ARE YOU STILL WORKING WITH CERBERUS I'M NOT SURE I CAN TRUST YOU AFTER WITNESSING YOU SLAUGHTER HUNDREDS OF CERBERUS TROOPS SHEPPPAAARRDDD

All that said, the scenes where Cerberus wasn't brought up were actually well done and he was overall perfectly tolerable.

Though I did feel a rather sadistic sense of glee when I told him about me and Garrus. Bitch maybe if you'd stop accusing me of being a Cerberus lapdop for 2 seconds I wouldn't have cheated on you but TOO BAD.




Actually no I probably would have cheated regardless because Garrus is Garrus and Kaidan just can't compete but the point stands.

Right on, right on.

I need to dig up my Miranda or Tali playthrough so I can tell off Ashley like a boss. NO BITCH, YOU DON'T GET TO BE ANGRY:

 

null

Mr. Thou
AKA
null
Dude who the fuck decided to let Tetsuya Nomura handle the ending?

Originally, with the catalyst, the star child at the end of the game, I had written that much more in the guise of a investigative style conversation, where there is something he tells you but then, you get to ask a bunch of questions and you get your questions answered. But then me and Casey talked and decided, lets keep the conversation "High level". Give you the details that you need to know, but don't get into the stuff that you don't need to know. Like "How long have they been reaping?" You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect universe. So we intentionally left those out
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
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from the games own codex ffs
 

Carlie

CltrAltDelicious
AKA
Chloe Frazer
Right on, right on.

I need to dig up my Miranda or Tali playthrough so I can tell off Ashley like a boss. NO BITCH, YOU DON'T GET TO BE ANGRY:


Then you should go with Miranda because Ashley is not angry at all if you cheated on her with Tali, commenting that Tali is like her sister. It is literally impossible for anyone to be mad with Tali.
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
Then you should go with Miranda because Ashley is not angry at all if you cheated on her with Tali, commenting that Tali is like her sister. It is literally impossible for anyone to be mad with Tali.
that is weird. 'YEAH SHEPARD FEEL FREE TO FUCK TALI SHE'S ADORBS LIKE MY SISTER id be cool with you fucking my sister too did i mention she lost her husband im just mentioning it so you know'
 

Bex

fresh to death
AKA
Bex
just completed the game

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srsly i sunk 100 hours into this series and gained no sense of conclusion/accomplishment at all FFFFF
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
I think the best part of the ending is waiting then watching the reactions of other people as they finish.

I was actually woken up in the dead of night when my sister beat it and raged. I could have been angry but I was too busy laughing.
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
just completed the game

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srsly i sunk 100 hours into this series and gained no sense of conclusion/accomplishment at all FFFFF

You should read the last few pages of the thread

We all feel the same :/
 

Carlie

CltrAltDelicious
AKA
Chloe Frazer
My little brother just finished the game.
Apparently I'm an evil person for letting him finish the game and not spearing him of the pain and frustration.
 

null

Mr. Thou
AKA
null
that is weird. 'YEAH SHEPARD FEEL FREE TO FUCK TALI SHE'S ADORBS LIKE MY SISTER id be cool with you fucking my sister too did i mention she lost her husband im just mentioning it so you know'

ROFL, no shit. It's ok Shepard, I don't feel at all angry or betrayed that my super close friend stole you away, but MY GOD HOW COULD YOU LEAVE ME FOR SOMEONE IN TIGHT FITTING CLOTHES however Tali's tight fitting suit is ok because she's like my sister whom I don't mind serving up like a veal cutlet. Also, I completely accept your word that you left Cerberus.

FLAAAAAAAAKE.

Next stop: romance someone who actually takes her bra off during sex. Liara seemed to be laying the "best friend right under your nose" on pretty thick...
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
ROFL, no shit. It's ok Shepard, I don't feel at all angry or betrayed that my super close friend stole you away, but MY GOD HOW COULD YOU LEAVE ME FOR SOMEONE IN TIGHT FITTING CLOTHES however Tali's tight fitting suit is ok because she's like my sister whom I don't mind serving up like a veal cutlet. Also, I completely accept your word that you left Cerberus.

FLAAAAAAAAKE.

Next stop: romance someone who actually takes her bra off during sex. Liara seemed to be laying the "best friend right under your nose" on pretty thick...
...i didn't know garrus wore a bra.
 
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
saddest makeouts ever waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa so much of the cries



EDIT: Okay I feel a little bit better now
after garrus asked liara if she's ever dug up a dinosaur
 
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Hisako

消えないひさ&#
AKA
Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
EDIT: Okay I feel a little bit better now
after garrus asked liara if she's ever dug up a dinosaur

Was that during the DLC level? Because I had James ask the exact same thing to her


All my lolz
 
so much better as Garrus

Also, wtf.
Traynor romance scene. I've been watching them out of curiosity. Holy crap does that look awkward and unromantic. In fact, most of these are awful.
 
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Hisako

消えないひさ&#
AKA
Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
Also, wtf.
Traynor romance scene. I've been watching them out of curiosity. Holy crap does that look awkward and unromantic. In fact, most of these are awful.

..... ;-;
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
This beautiful post was made over at BSN and it has all of my feelings

all of them

bwFex said:
I really have been trying to let myself get over this nightmare, but since you guys promise you're listening here, I'll try to just say it all, get it all out.

I have invested more of myself into this series than almost any other video game franchise in my life. I loved this game. I believed in it. For five years, it delivered. I must have played ME1 and ME2 a dozen times each.

I remember the end of Mass Effect 2. Never before, in any video game I had ever played, did I feel like my actions really mattered. Knowing that the decisions I made and the hard work I put into ME2 had a very real, clear, obvious impact on who lived and who died was one of the most astounding feelings in the world to me. I remember when that laser hit the Normandy and Joker made a comment about how he was happy we upgraded the shields. That was amazing. Cause and effect. Work and reward.

The first time I went through, I lost Mordin, and it was gut-wrenching: watching him die because I made a bad decision was damning, heartbreaking. But it wasn't hopeless, because I knew I could go back, do better, and save him. I knew that I was in control, that my actions mattered. So that's exactly what I did. I reviewed my decisions, found my mistakes, and did everything right. I put together a plan, I worked hard to follow that plan, and I got the reward I had worked so hard for. And then, it was all for nothing.

When I started playing Mass Effect 3, I was blown away. It was perfect. Everything was perfect. It was incredible to see all of my decisions playing out in front of me, building up to new and outrageous outcomes. I was so sure that this was it, this was going to be the masterpiece that crowned an already near-perfect trilogy. With every war asset I gathered, and with every multiplayer game I won, I knew that my work would pay off, that I would be truly satisfied with the outcome of my hard work and smart decisions. Every time I acquired a new WA bonus, I couldn't wait to see how it would play out in the final battle. And then, it was all for nothing.

I wasn't expecting a perfect, happy ending with rainbows and butterflies. In fact, I think I may have been insulted if everyone made it through just fine. The Reapers are an enormous threat (although obviously not as invincible as they would like us to believe), and we should be right to anticipate heavy losses. But I never lost hope. I built alliances, I made the impossible happen to rally the galaxy together. I cured the genophage. I saved the Turians. I united the geth and the quarians. And then, it was all for nothing.

When Mordin died, it was heartwrenching, but I knew it was the right thing. His sacrifice was... perfect. It made sense. It was congruent with the dramatic themes that had been present since I very first met Wrex in ME1. It was not a cheap trick, a deus ex machina, an easy out. It was beautiful, meaningful, significant, relevant, and satisfying. It was an amazing way for an amazing character to sacrifice themself for an amazing thing. And then it was all for nothing.

When Thane died, it was tearjerking. I knew from the moment he explained his illness that one day, I'd have to deal with his death. I knew he was never going to survive the trilogy, and I knew it wouldn't be fun to watch him go. But when his son started reading the prayer, I lost it. His death was beautiful. It was significant. It was relevant. It was satisfying. It was meaningful. He died to protect Shepard, to protect the entire Citadel. He took a life he thought was unredeemable and used it to make the world a brighter place. And then it was all for nothing.

When Wrex and Eve thanked me for saving their species, I felt that I had truly accomplished something great. When Tali set foot on her homeworld, I felt that I had truly accomplished something great. When Javik gave his inspiring speech, I felt that I had inspired something truly great. When I activated the Citadel's arms, sat down to reminisce with Anderson one final time, I felt that I had truly accomplished something amazing. I felt that my sacrifice was meaningful. Significant. Relevant. And while still a completely unexplained deus ex machina, at least it was a little bit satisfying.

And then, just like everything else in this trilogy, it was all for nothing.

If we pretend like the indoctrination theory is false, and we're really supposed to take the ending at face value, this entire game is a lost cause. The krogans will never repopulate. The quarians will never rebuild their home world. The geth will never know what it means to be alive and independent. The salarians will never see how people can change for the better.

Instead, the quarians and turians will endure a quick, torturous extinction as they slowly starve to death, trapped in a system with no support for them. Everyone else will squabble over the scraps of Earth that haven't been completely obliterated, until the krogans drive them all to extinction and then die off without any women present. And this is all assuming that the relays didn't cause supernova-scaled extinction events simply by being destroyed, like we saw in Arrival.

And perhaps the worst part is that we don't even know. We don't know what happened to our squadmates. We didn't get any sort of catharsis, conclusion. We got five years of literary foreplay followed by a kick to the groin and a note telling us that in a couple months, we can pay Bioware $15 for them to do it to us all over again.

It's not just the abysmally depressing/sacrificial nature of the ending, either. As I've already made perfectly clear, I came into this game expecting sacrifice. When Mordin did it, it was beautiful. When Thane did it, it was beautiful. Even Verner. Stupid, misguided, idiotic Verner. Even his ridiculous sacrifice had meaning, relevance, coherence, and offered satisfaction.

No, it's not the sacrifice I have a problem with. It's the utter lack of coherence and respect for the five years of literary gold that have already been established in this franchise. We spent three games preparing to fight these reapers. I spent hours upon hours doing every side quest, picking up every war asset, maxing out my galactic readiness so that when the time came, the army I had built could make a stand, and show these Reapers that we won't go down without a fight.

In ME1, we did the impossible when we killed Sovereign. In ME2, we began to see that the Reapers aren't as immortal as they claim to be: that even they have basic needs, exploitable weaknesses. In ME3, we saw the Reapers die. We saw one get taken down by an overgrown worm. We saw one die with a few coordinated orbital bombardments. We saw several ripped apart by standard space combat. In ME1, it took three alliance fleets to kill the "invincible" Sovereign. By the end of ME3, I had assembled a galactic armada fifty times more powerful than that, and a thousand times more prepared. I never expected the fight to be easy, but I proved that we wouldn't go down without a fight, that there is always hope in unity. That's the theme we've been given for the past five years: there is hope and strength through unity. That if we work together, we can achieve the impossible.

And then we're supposed to believe that the fate of the galaxy comes down to some completely unexplained starchild asking Shepard what his favorite color is? That the army we built was all for nothing? That the squad whose loyalty we fought so hard for was all for nothing? That in the end, none of it mattered at all?

It's a poetic notion, but this isn't the place for poetry. It's one thing to rattle prose nihilistic over the course of a movie or ballad, where the audience is a passive observer, learning a lesson from the suffering and futility of a character, but that's not what Mass Effect is. Mass Effect has always been about making the player the true hero. If you really want us to all feel like we spent the past five years dumping time, energy, and emotional investment into this game just to tell us that nothing really matters, you have signed your own death certificate. Nobody pays hundreds of dollars and hours to be reminded how bleak, empty, and depressing the world can be, to be told that nothing we do matters, to be told that all of our greatest accomplishments, all of our faith, all of our work, all of our unity is for nothing.

No. It simply cannot be this bleak. I refuse to believe Bioware is really doing this. The ending of ME1 was perfect. We saw the struggle, we saw the cost, but we knew that we had worked hard, worked together, and won. The ending of ME2 was perfect. We saw the struggle, we saw the cost, but we knew that we had worked hard, worked together, and won.

Taken at face value, the end of ME3 throws every single thing we've done in the past five years into the wind, and makes the player watch from a distance as the entire galaxy is thrown into a technological dark age and a stellar extinction. Why would we care about a universe that no longer exists? We should we invest any more time or money into a world that will never be what we came to know and love?

Even if the ending is retconned, it doesn't make things better. Just knowing that the starchild was our real foe the entire time is so utterly mindless, contrived, and irrelevant to what we experienced in ME1 and ME2 that it cannot be forgiven. If that really is the truth, then Mass Effect simply isn't what we thought it was. And frankly, if this is what Mass Effect was supposed to be all along, I want no part of it. It's a useless, trite, overplayed cliche, so far beneath the praise I once gave this franchise that it hurts to think about.

No. There is no way to save this franchise without giving us the only explanation that makes sense. You know what it is. It was the plan all along. Too much evidence to not be true. Too many people reaching the same conclusions independently.

The indoctrination theory doesn't just save this franchise: it elevates it to one of the most powerful and compelling storytelling experiences I've ever had in my life. The fact that you managed to do more than indoctrinate Shepard - you managed to indoctrinate the players themselves - is astonishing. If that really was the end game, here, then you have won my gaming soul. But if that's true, then I'm still waiting for the rest of this story, the final chapter of Shepard's heroic journey. I paid to finish the fight, and if the indoctrination theory is true, it's not over yet.

And if it's not, then I just don't even care. I have been betrayed, and it's time for me to let go of the denial, the anger, the bargaining, and start working through the depression and emptiness until I can just move on. You can't keep teasing us like this. This must have seemed like a great plan at the time, but it has cost too much. These people believed in you. I believed in you.

Just make it right.

Me3 is deceptively good until you reach this point.
 

Lex

Administrator
It's so true. That guy put it really well. It's just not right that the same people who wrote the rest of that game also came up with that ending (or was Casey Hudson involved with the rest of the game?)

This guy also makes some good points. May have already posted it but cba checking.



It really is such an amazing experience right up until the end, but I think one of the worst parts is it just kills all replay value. I never thought a video game could make me so pissed off, but it's literally been on my mind all week. I have a class test at 12 (in 2 hours) that I haven't been able to study for.

WHAT THE FUCK BIOWARE. LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO ME!

Seriously, even if they come out and say "that's the end, that's it" I do not care. The only thing that makes the end make any sense is the indoctrination theory.
 
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Russell

.. ? ..
AKA
King of the Potato People
This beautiful post was made over at BSN and it has all of my feelings all of them

bwFex said:
I really have been trying to let myself get over this nightmare, but since you guys promise you're listening here, I'll try to just say it all, get it all out.

I have invested more of myself into this series than almost any other video game franchise in my life. I loved this game. I believed in it. For five years, it delivered. I must have played ME1 and ME2 a dozen times each.

I remember the end of Mass Effect 2. Never before, in any video game I had ever played, did I feel like my actions really mattered. Knowing that the decisions I made and the hard work I put into ME2 had a very real, clear, obvious impact on who lived and who died was one of the most astounding feelings in the world to me. I remember when that laser hit the Normandy and Joker made a comment about how he was happy we upgraded the shields. That was amazing. Cause and effect. Work and reward.

The first time I went through, I lost Mordin, and it was gut-wrenching: watching him die because I made a bad decision was damning, heartbreaking. But it wasn't hopeless, because I knew I could go back, do better, and save him. I knew that I was in control, that my actions mattered. So that's exactly what I did. I reviewed my decisions, found my mistakes, and did everything right. I put together a plan, I worked hard to follow that plan, and I got the reward I had worked so hard for. And then, it was all for nothing.

When I started playing Mass Effect 3, I was blown away. It was perfect. Everything was perfect. It was incredible to see all of my decisions playing out in front of me, building up to new and outrageous outcomes. I was so sure that this was it, this was going to be the masterpiece that crowned an already near-perfect trilogy. With every war asset I gathered, and with every multiplayer game I won, I knew that my work would pay off, that I would be truly satisfied with the outcome of my hard work and smart decisions. Every time I acquired a new WA bonus, I couldn't wait to see how it would play out in the final battle. And then, it was all for nothing.

I wasn't expecting a perfect, happy ending with rainbows and butterflies. In fact, I think I may have been insulted if everyone made it through just fine. The Reapers are an enormous threat (although obviously not as invincible as they would like us to believe), and we should be right to anticipate heavy losses. But I never lost hope. I built alliances, I made the impossible happen to rally the galaxy together. I cured the genophage. I saved the Turians. I united the geth and the quarians. And then, it was all for nothing.

When Mordin died, it was heartwrenching, but I knew it was the right thing. His sacrifice was... perfect. It made sense. It was congruent with the dramatic themes that had been present since I very first met Wrex in ME1. It was not a cheap trick, a deus ex machina, an easy out. It was beautiful, meaningful, significant, relevant, and satisfying. It was an amazing way for an amazing character to sacrifice themself for an amazing thing. And then it was all for nothing.

When Thane died, it was tearjerking. I knew from the moment he explained his illness that one day, I'd have to deal with his death. I knew he was never going to survive the trilogy, and I knew it wouldn't be fun to watch him go. But when his son started reading the prayer, I lost it. His death was beautiful. It was significant. It was relevant. It was satisfying. It was meaningful. He died to protect Shepard, to protect the entire Citadel. He took a life he thought was unredeemable and used it to make the world a brighter place. And then it was all for nothing.

When Wrex and Eve thanked me for saving their species, I felt that I had truly accomplished something great. When Tali set foot on her homeworld, I felt that I had truly accomplished something great. When Javik gave his inspiring speech, I felt that I had inspired something truly great. When I activated the Citadel's arms, sat down to reminisce with Anderson one final time, I felt that I had truly accomplished something amazing. I felt that my sacrifice was meaningful. Significant. Relevant. And while still a completely unexplained deus ex machina, at least it was a little bit satisfying.

And then, just like everything else in this trilogy, it was all for nothing.

If we pretend like the indoctrination theory is false, and we're really supposed to take the ending at face value, this entire game is a lost cause. The krogans will never repopulate. The quarians will never rebuild their home world. The geth will never know what it means to be alive and independent. The salarians will never see how people can change for the better.

Instead, the quarians and turians will endure a quick, torturous extinction as they slowly starve to death, trapped in a system with no support for them. Everyone else will squabble over the scraps of Earth that haven't been completely obliterated, until the krogans drive them all to extinction and then die off without any women present. And this is all assuming that the relays didn't cause supernova-scaled extinction events simply by being destroyed, like we saw in Arrival.

And perhaps the worst part is that we don't even know. We don't know what happened to our squadmates. We didn't get any sort of catharsis, conclusion. We got five years of literary foreplay followed by a kick to the groin and a note telling us that in a couple months, we can pay Bioware $15 for them to do it to us all over again.

It's not just the abysmally depressing/sacrificial nature of the ending, either. As I've already made perfectly clear, I came into this game expecting sacrifice. When Mordin did it, it was beautiful. When Thane did it, it was beautiful. Even Verner. Stupid, misguided, idiotic Verner. Even his ridiculous sacrifice had meaning, relevance, coherence, and offered satisfaction.

No, it's not the sacrifice I have a problem with. It's the utter lack of coherence and respect for the five years of literary gold that have already been established in this franchise. We spent three games preparing to fight these reapers. I spent hours upon hours doing every side quest, picking up every war asset, maxing out my galactic readiness so that when the time came, the army I had built could make a stand, and show these Reapers that we won't go down without a fight.

In ME1, we did the impossible when we killed Sovereign. In ME2, we began to see that the Reapers aren't as immortal as they claim to be: that even they have basic needs, exploitable weaknesses. In ME3, we saw the Reapers die. We saw one get taken down by an overgrown worm. We saw one die with a few coordinated orbital bombardments. We saw several ripped apart by standard space combat. In ME1, it took three alliance fleets to kill the "invincible" Sovereign. By the end of ME3, I had assembled a galactic armada fifty times more powerful than that, and a thousand times more prepared. I never expected the fight to be easy, but I proved that we wouldn't go down without a fight, that there is always hope in unity. That's the theme we've been given for the past five years: there is hope and strength through unity. That if we work together, we can achieve the impossible.

And then we're supposed to believe that the fate of the galaxy comes down to some completely unexplained starchild asking Shepard what his favorite color is? That the army we built was all for nothing? That the squad whose loyalty we fought so hard for was all for nothing? That in the end, none of it mattered at all?

It's a poetic notion, but this isn't the place for poetry. It's one thing to rattle prose nihilistic over the course of a movie or ballad, where the audience is a passive observer, learning a lesson from the suffering and futility of a character, but that's not what Mass Effect is. Mass Effect has always been about making the player the true hero. If you really want us to all feel like we spent the past five years dumping time, energy, and emotional investment into this game just to tell us that nothing really matters, you have signed your own death certificate. Nobody pays hundreds of dollars and hours to be reminded how bleak, empty, and depressing the world can be, to be told that nothing we do matters, to be told that all of our greatest accomplishments, all of our faith, all of our work, all of our unity is for nothing.

No. It simply cannot be this bleak. I refuse to believe Bioware is really doing this. The ending of ME1 was perfect. We saw the struggle, we saw the cost, but we knew that we had worked hard, worked together, and won. The ending of ME2 was perfect. We saw the struggle, we saw the cost, but we knew that we had worked hard, worked together, and won.

Taken at face value, the end of ME3 throws every single thing we've done in the past five years into the wind, and makes the player watch from a distance as the entire galaxy is thrown into a technological dark age and a stellar extinction. Why would we care about a universe that no longer exists? We should we invest any more time or money into a world that will never be what we came to know and love?

Even if the ending is retconned, it doesn't make things better. Just knowing that the starchild was our real foe the entire time is so utterly mindless, contrived, and irrelevant to what we experienced in ME1 and ME2 that it cannot be forgiven. If that really is the truth, then Mass Effect simply isn't what we thought it was. And frankly, if this is what Mass Effect was supposed to be all along, I want no part of it. It's a useless, trite, overplayed cliche, so far beneath the praise I once gave this franchise that it hurts to think about.

No. There is no way to save this franchise without giving us the only explanation that makes sense. You know what it is. It was the plan all along. Too much evidence to not be true. Too many people reaching the same conclusions independently.

The indoctrination theory doesn't just save this franchise: it elevates it to one of the most powerful and compelling storytelling experiences I've ever had in my life. The fact that you managed to do more than indoctrinate Shepard - you managed to indoctrinate the players themselves - is astonishing. If that really was the end game, here, then you have won my gaming soul. But if that's true, then I'm still waiting for the rest of this story, the final chapter of Shepard's heroic journey. I paid to finish the fight, and if the indoctrination theory is true, it's not over yet.

And if it's not, then I just don't even care. I have been betrayed, and it's time for me to let go of the denial, the anger, the bargaining, and start working through the depression and emptiness until I can just move on. You can't keep teasing us like this. This must have seemed like a great plan at the time, but it has cost too much. These people believed in you. I believed in you.

Just make it right.

Me3 is deceptively good until you reach this point.

I cannot agree with you more.

Right near the end in London as you as saying goodbye to everyone, Liara rests her head on Sheppard’s shoulder to say goodbye. It’s kind of a heartbreaking moment, it made me think she wanted to more than just good friends.

And it made me want to replay Mass Effect 2 and romance Liara, stay loyal to her and see how things go with her in ME3. I was also planning out different decisions I made, talk Kasumi into keeping the grey box, keep the Cerberus info for myself etc etc. I was already looking forward to replaying 2 games when as was at the end in London.

Then I saw the ending.

[Insert Rage and onset of depression here] :@

Why would I ever replay these games, knowing the Reapers win (or may as well have) and nothing I do will matter?

I remember a review for Skyrim saying "Skyrim feels like a world that existed before you started playing, and will continue to exist after you stop playing". And it really does, just like the Mass Effect universe did, until the last 10 minutes of ME3. Now the Mass Effect universe is dead and I can’t bring myself to enter it again knowing it’s all so pointless. :sigh:

It really is such an amazing experience right up until the end, but I think one of the worst parts is it just kills all replay value. I never thought a video game could make me so pissed off, but it's literally been on my mind all week. I have a class test at 12 (in 2 hours) that I haven't been able to study for.

WHAT THE FUCK BIOWARE. LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO ME!

Glad it's not just me, it's been on my mind all week too.
No matter what I do I can't stop thinking about it. :scared:
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
wanting to comment on how people are flipping out over quarians and turians
i honestly can't understand why 1. people assume they have no food supply on their ship, and 2. why mass effect neglects to mention the fact that humans have enzymes that convert dextro amino acids (WHICH DO EXIST ON EARTH BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT IS MOSTLY A LAEVO PLANET, IT DOES HAVE NATURALLY OCCURING DEXTRO-ACIDS) so why the fuck do turians and quarians lack these enzymes? In fact, a number of things with the biochemistry of mass effect in general. I guess they lack dextrose as an artificial sweetner because I guess YOU COULD HAVE ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK. The whole idea that they're all gonna suddenly die due to starvation is ridiculous. Long sigh.
 

Dana Scully

Special Agent
AKA
YACCBS, Legato Bluesummers, Daenaerys Targaryen, Revy, Kate Beckett, Samantha Carter, Matsumoto Rangiku
wanting to comment on how people are flipping out over quarians and turians
i honestly can't understand why 1. people assume they have no food supply on their ship, and 2. why mass effect neglects to mention the fact that humans have enzymes that convert dextro amino acids (WHICH DO EXIST ON EARTH BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT IS MOSTLY A LAEVO PLANET, IT DOES HAVE NATURALLY OCCURING DEXTRO-ACIDS) so why the fuck do turians and quarians lack these enzymes? In fact, a number of things with the biochemistry of mass effect in general. I guess they lack dextrose as an artificial sweetner because I guess YOU COULD HAVE ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK. The whole idea that they're all gonna suddenly die due to starvation is ridiculous. Long sigh.

But even if they brought food with them did they really bring enough for the decades it would take for them to travel back to worlds that would sustain them? I guess the quarians might have their liveships or whatever they're called but even those must eventually require some sort of 'fuel'/fertilizer/seeds/whatever.

I just can't see any of the races carrying enough fuel or food to last the years and years that no mass relay travel requires because I don't think any of the races would have expected the destruction of every single mass relay in the galaxy.
 

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Escapist podcast is pretty good speculation for both sides of the argument without too much raeg

Fairly refreshing to listen to
 
I ended up checking out all the romance scenes to see if any of them would appeal to me.
I'd say Liara's is the most romantic feeling followed by Garrus. Tali's feels lacking, and so many of the human ones are just cheesy and Jacob level of creepy.

Though I should say Garrus as a whole I think is the most adorable relationship. Liara is like serious romance and beautiful scenes of their bodies together. Garrus has that 'friends becoming lovers' cuteness about it where they both become silly teenagers around each other and just enjoy each other's company.


So... anybody want to buy a used collector's edition? :monster:
 
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But even if they brought food with them did they really bring enough for the decades it would take for them to travel back to worlds that would sustain them? I guess the quarians might have their liveships or whatever they're called but even those must eventually require some sort of 'fuel'/fertilizer/seeds/whatever.

I just can't see any of the races carrying enough fuel or food to last the years and years that no mass relay travel requires because I don't think any of the races would have expected the destruction of every single mass relay in the galaxy.
i thought someone mentioned that even without the mass relays they have FTL drives which meant it would not take decades but perhaps just years to get back out to quarian space (and inevitably a detour to turian space to get more food). i dunno, it doesn't seem SUPER DOOMING to have turians and quarians out near earth like everyone online seems to expect.
 
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