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So reading through, the chapters with Madara & Sasuke, I'm getting really curious, and even more suspicious about Tobi... I completely neglected this, but he lies to Sasuke about a couple of key things when talking about the history of the village that make me further question his real identity.
Uchiha Madara brings Kyubi and attempts to attack the village, and the Battle of the end between himself and the 1st Hokage takes place. At this point, he should have been killed. Past this point is when Tobi comes into the picture. He begins wearing his mask, and also is never shown with the Eternal Mangekyo that Madara had from his brother, he's only shown with the normal Sharingan.
502 is when Tobi encounters the 4th Hokage who makes a guess about his identity as Madara, but isn't sure. Note that Tobi never directly confirms that he is Madara at this point. This attack lead Danzou, Homura, & Koharu to suspect the Uchiha of leading the attack which results in them assign Itachi to spy on them. That lead to the instability of the Uchiha clan, and Sasuke's father secretly planning the coup de etat. However, in 399, Tobi tells Sasuke that the appearance of Kyubi 16 years ago was a freak occurrance, and when Sasuke debates it in 401, based on what Itachi told him, Tobi insists it's a lie. He's VERY carefully hidden that lie within the truth about Itachi, which is what's completely blinded Sasuke.
When Itachi was assigned with the task of eliminating the Uchiha Clan, Tobi showed up, and assisted Itachi in massacring the entire clan. Since he also appears to know exactly what was going on inside Konoha, this would mean that he is directly responsible for the destruction of the Uchiha clan, but he's obscuring the information that would allow Sasuke to discover this. In 515 Tobi seems slightly disturbed about how much Orochimaru knew what he was doing. I suspect that this all may have had to do with Orochimaru's reason for abandoning Akatsuki shortly after Itachi arrived, though I'm not entirely sure how, though Itachi needed to prevent Orochimaru posessing Sasuke, and I suspect it's to keep Sasuke from being under anyone's control, which I'll address shortly.
The reason behind these series of attacks by Tobi is now apparent. If he's going to use the Biju to wage the 4th Ninja World War, he needs to have an assurance that he'll win. If he has an army of Zetsu built from the 1st Hokage's cells (the only person able to directly control Biju), in addition to killing off the Uchiha Clan, that means that Konoha- the ONE village that could have EASILY stood in his way is now powerless to stop him, since he is now, essentially in control of the only Sharingan (aside from Kakashi) AND the only cells of the 1st Hokage. I also suspect that Tobi MAY need Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyo to accomplish something, since he doesn't seem to have them, like Madara did. Also in 404, Tobi has a lengthy conversation with Zetsu, where he states that out of EVERYTHING Akatsuki's done so far, making Sasuke his was the most important.
Now it comes to Itachi.
Itachi wanted Sasuke to kill him, and become a hero, and restore the honor of the Uchiha Clan, and for Konoha to see him as a hero. He also planted Amaterasu into Sasuke before he died to keep Madara away from either influencing him, or killing him. This failed, but it's an indication that Itachi may have also been trying to prevent the war from taking place (himself strongly desiring peace because of his experiences as a child). Just before confronting Sasuke, recapped in 403, Itachi leaves a piece of his power with Naruto, and leaves Naruto alone. He smiles when Naruto says that he was a better brother to Sasuke than Itachi ever was, and I think that is his reason for trusting Naruto.
441 and the 4th's description of the issue and the initial conflict, even before he learns the full story from his mom, means that Naruto knows that Tobi is manipulating people with their own motivations. With Naruto now knowing the complete truth about Kyubi's attack and Tobi's responsibility in it, he's one of the only people who could set Sasuke straight, because HE is essentially the proof that Madara lied. At this point they NEED Sasuke, and his Sharingan to win the War. The Allied Shinobi Army have no hope of overcoming power of the other Biju, aside from brute force with the loss of Hashirama's Cells & the Sharingan. I think that these are some of the biggest points that will need to be addressed during the war, but it's going to run into the issue of the MASSIVE force that's back from the dead, and the Zetsu army.
Anyhow, things to keep in mind!
Oh- and if you thought Sasuke was fucking nuts BEFORE, just imagine how absolutely, uncontrollably, furious he'll be if/when he finds out that Tobi carefully orchestrated the murder of his entire clan, that eventually lead to him killing his own brother, and was using him to destroy his own villiage, and (essentially) murder his friends. He'd be a TRUE Avenger at that point, but one for good, and I would be DAMN afraid to get in his way.
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Uchiha Madara brings Kyubi and attempts to attack the village, and the Battle of the end between himself and the 1st Hokage takes place. At this point, he should have been killed. Past this point is when Tobi comes into the picture. He begins wearing his mask, and also is never shown with the Eternal Mangekyo that Madara had from his brother, he's only shown with the normal Sharingan.
502 is when Tobi encounters the 4th Hokage who makes a guess about his identity as Madara, but isn't sure. Note that Tobi never directly confirms that he is Madara at this point. This attack lead Danzou, Homura, & Koharu to suspect the Uchiha of leading the attack which results in them assign Itachi to spy on them. That lead to the instability of the Uchiha clan, and Sasuke's father secretly planning the coup de etat. However, in 399, Tobi tells Sasuke that the appearance of Kyubi 16 years ago was a freak occurrance, and when Sasuke debates it in 401, based on what Itachi told him, Tobi insists it's a lie. He's VERY carefully hidden that lie within the truth about Itachi, which is what's completely blinded Sasuke.
When Itachi was assigned with the task of eliminating the Uchiha Clan, Tobi showed up, and assisted Itachi in massacring the entire clan. Since he also appears to know exactly what was going on inside Konoha, this would mean that he is directly responsible for the destruction of the Uchiha clan, but he's obscuring the information that would allow Sasuke to discover this. In 515 Tobi seems slightly disturbed about how much Orochimaru knew what he was doing. I suspect that this all may have had to do with Orochimaru's reason for abandoning Akatsuki shortly after Itachi arrived, though I'm not entirely sure how, though Itachi needed to prevent Orochimaru posessing Sasuke, and I suspect it's to keep Sasuke from being under anyone's control, which I'll address shortly.
The reason behind these series of attacks by Tobi is now apparent. If he's going to use the Biju to wage the 4th Ninja World War, he needs to have an assurance that he'll win. If he has an army of Zetsu built from the 1st Hokage's cells (the only person able to directly control Biju), in addition to killing off the Uchiha Clan, that means that Konoha- the ONE village that could have EASILY stood in his way is now powerless to stop him, since he is now, essentially in control of the only Sharingan (aside from Kakashi) AND the only cells of the 1st Hokage. I also suspect that Tobi MAY need Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyo to accomplish something, since he doesn't seem to have them, like Madara did. Also in 404, Tobi has a lengthy conversation with Zetsu, where he states that out of EVERYTHING Akatsuki's done so far, making Sasuke his was the most important.
Now it comes to Itachi.
Itachi wanted Sasuke to kill him, and become a hero, and restore the honor of the Uchiha Clan, and for Konoha to see him as a hero. He also planted Amaterasu into Sasuke before he died to keep Madara away from either influencing him, or killing him. This failed, but it's an indication that Itachi may have also been trying to prevent the war from taking place (himself strongly desiring peace because of his experiences as a child). Just before confronting Sasuke, recapped in 403, Itachi leaves a piece of his power with Naruto, and leaves Naruto alone. He smiles when Naruto says that he was a better brother to Sasuke than Itachi ever was, and I think that is his reason for trusting Naruto.
441 and the 4th's description of the issue and the initial conflict, even before he learns the full story from his mom, means that Naruto knows that Tobi is manipulating people with their own motivations. With Naruto now knowing the complete truth about Kyubi's attack and Tobi's responsibility in it, he's one of the only people who could set Sasuke straight, because HE is essentially the proof that Madara lied. At this point they NEED Sasuke, and his Sharingan to win the War. The Allied Shinobi Army have no hope of overcoming power of the other Biju, aside from brute force with the loss of Hashirama's Cells & the Sharingan. I think that these are some of the biggest points that will need to be addressed during the war, but it's going to run into the issue of the MASSIVE force that's back from the dead, and the Zetsu army.
Anyhow, things to keep in mind!
Oh- and if you thought Sasuke was fucking nuts BEFORE, just imagine how absolutely, uncontrollably, furious he'll be if/when he finds out that Tobi carefully orchestrated the murder of his entire clan, that eventually lead to him killing his own brother, and was using him to destroy his own villiage, and (essentially) murder his friends. He'd be a TRUE Avenger at that point, but one for good, and I would be DAMN afraid to get in his way.
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