Podcast discussion

Lex

Administrator
It is absolutely free to have iTunes carry it. We'll have to set up a feed for iTunes to get the podcast from but if we have a coding guy, I'm betting we could set that up easily. Otherwise, we could have the podcast hosted through one of the free podcast hosting services out there.

I'm sure this is something Yop could deal with if pressured enough :monster:
 

vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
Yop did at least submit an application for TLS to be on iTunes but he never posted what the outcome of that application was.

I did a quick search on iTunes for the podcast and I did finally find it. So, they did accept the feed. So, we don't have to work that out. However, we do have an issue with actually locating the podcast on iTunes. I found the podcast by searching for "The Lifestream.net" and it came right up. However, when I tried searching by "Final Fantasy" it was not on the very long list of podcasts that pulled up. I think we may need to fix the metadata to include words like "Final Fantasy", "RPG", "Video games", "games", "role playing games", "JRPGS", etc, etc.

Do we want to try and do this Skype call today? If so, what time works best for everyone? I'm pretty much available all day until 7pm EST.
 

Ruz

Manager of the Gullwings
Hello,
Just wanted to introduce myself. I'm Vader's neighbor and am an avid Final Fantasy fan. I've never done a podcast before but I am very talkative and if you all end up deciding I'm a scrub, I have no problem ducking out. Really just wanted to pop in and greet everyone and say that I look forward to working with Vader on this project. He has done podcasts before and I'm positive you all are making a good choice in going with him.
 

Carlie

CltrAltDelicious
AKA
Chloe Frazer
I'm available tomorrow. It might take a few days to get people together for this with all the crazy work schedules.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
I'm disappointed in how few people are willing to contribute ideas - as I said before, showing up to a Skype call does not put you under any obligation to appear on the podcast in future.

Still, one of my favourite podcasts is the work of only two people, so it's not like we can't make it work with the level of interest that has been shown already.

Vader, Carlie, Lex: rather than seeing if we can make the call happen on any particular day, let's schedule it a few days in advance, at a time that suits the four of us. Everyone else is still welcome to join, but since they haven't said anything so far, the important thing is that we're available.

I suggest one of the following:

Wednesday evening (NA) / night (EU)
Friday evening/night
Sunday afternoon/evening

Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday are all out because of Eurovision. :monster:
 

vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
I'm disappointed in how few people are willing to contribute ideas - as I said before, showing up to a Skype call does not put you under any obligation to appear on the podcast in future.

Still, one of my favourite podcasts is the work of only two people, so it's not like we can't make it work with the level of interest that has been shown already.

Vader, Carlie, Lex: rather than seeing if we can make the call happen on any particular day, let's schedule it a few days in advance, at a time that suits the four of us. Everyone else is still welcome to join, but since they haven't said anything so far, the important thing is that we're available.

I suggest one of the following:

Wednesday evening (NA) / night (EU)
Friday evening/night
Sunday afternoon/evening

Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday are all out because of Eurovision. :monster:

I'm down for Wednesday evening. Don't believe I have anything going on. Would likely have to be around 6pm EST. I don't get home from work until around then.
 

Carlie

CltrAltDelicious
AKA
Chloe Frazer
I'll probably be home all day on Wednesday. I can do Friday too after I get off work at 4:00 PM EST.
 

vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
Let's try for Wednesday, then. 6 PM EST is 11 PM in Britain and 1 AM here, but that's fine by me.

I just wanted to say that I am very much looking forward to speaking with you all this evening. This is a project that I have been looking forward to doing for a very, very long time. :)
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
I'll make a forum announcement to see if anyone else wants in.

Are you sure you meant EST when you said 6 PM, though? I just looked it up to make sure I had converted it correctly but this page says most places are on EDT at the moment. So my conversions might be an hour off.

(This is why I usually give my event times in UTC, but I've been called pedantic for doing so. :P)
 

vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
I'll make a forum announcement to see if anyone else wants in.

Are you sure you meant EST when you said 6 PM, though? I just looked it up to make sure I had converted it correctly but this page says most places are on EDT at the moment. So my conversions might be an hour off.

(This is why I usually give my event times in UTC, but I've been called pedantic for doing so. :P)

Yeah, we are on EST and right now there are several states in the US that recognize daylight savings time, including my own. I don't know really know UTC time. I did, however, use a time converter I found online. Looks like it would be 10pm UTC.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
Vader, I sent you a Skype contact request. Lex and Carlie, I messaged you. We're supposed to be starting in a couple of minutes.
 

vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
Hey all, I had a great time talking with you last night. I think it was a very productive conversation. I'm really looking forward to getting this thing rolling again.

Flintlock, I know you said you were going to post the notes later today, but I thought I would add a few to do's that I don't think were on our meeting notes:

- Create a tls.net email address for the podcast (perhaps just [email protected])

- Make sure everyone is cool with me taking over as host of the show

- Decide on theme music (did you like the Bulb covers of the FFVII music that I sent last night?)
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
Sorry I have been unable to contribute anything to this, but I do want to thank vader for injecting new life into what I've always seen as one of our better features with untapped potential.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
My write-up of the podcast notes might get delayed a bit because of Eurovision - I'm hosting a party on Saturday and need to do a fair bit of prep work first, plus I agreed to see a friend tomorrow night. It will happen no later than Sunday.
 

vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
My write-up of the podcast notes might get delayed a bit because of Eurovision - I'm hosting a party on Saturday and need to do a fair bit of prep work first, plus I agreed to see a friend tomorrow night. It will happen no later than Sunday.

No problem man. Real life comes first my friend. I just found out that one of my very good friends lost his Dad a couple of days ago. So, I may not be as active on here for the next several days as I try to help support him.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
Here we are then. Participating in the call were Vader, Lex, Carlie and myself, though Carlie was mostly playing Witcher 3. :P


Content

We agreed that news about Final Fantasy and related games/franchises should play an important part in the show. I suggested that we could begin the show with a quick roundup of news stories before moving onto discussion and other features.

We want to get the audience more involved in the podcast. We could read comments on the show and respond to them. Vader also suggested we could invite people to ask for Final Fantasy game tips. It feels a bit old-fashioned to me, since there's a lot of information easily available on the internet already, but maybe that's part of the charm.

We can have "shows within the show", recurring features that take up, say, five minutes in each episode. Some ideas we had for this are:

  • Updates on Final Fantasy XIV (and possibly XI) from someone who actively plays it.
  • A Final Fantasy retrospective where we look at each game in the series individually.
  • A play-along series (a "book club for games", as I described it) where the guests on the show play through a game together and discuss their experiences, again encouraging audience participation as well. There could be some overlap with our existing community events, like the community playthroughs.
  • Interviews with creators of fan works - people who have remixed Final Fantasy music, published fan art or fiction, and so on.

Structure/participants

We discussed some other podcasts we listen to for comparison. I think all the shows we listen to have permanent hosts and more or less the same guests in each show. As a listener, that's part of the appeal - you get to know the personalities and can follow what's going on in their lives (e.g. what games they're playing). That's the structure we're going to go with.

Vader offered to be the host (as well as the editor/publisher). I'd be happy to give him a go, but as we've had other people hosting in the past, Lex thought it would be a good idea to ask in this thread first in case anyone objects. So, what do you say? I know he's new but he's definitely got the enthusiasm for this that everyone else seems to be lacking.

We thought we'd try and keep the shows reasonably small, with about three guests in each episode in addition to the host. This isn't a hard limit; two or four would also be fine, depending on how many people are available. My thinking is that we'll have a pool of about six guests who we can rotate depending on what we're going to be covering in a particular episode. So if there's been some Kingdom Hearts news, for example, we can invite someone on who is knowledgeable on the series. I'd hardly be able to put two words together on the subject myself. Well, apart from "Kingdom" and "Hearts". :monster:

Lex and I both volunteered to appear on the show. If I recall correctly, Carlie wasn't so committal (maybe because she was distracted), but said she was available as well. I looked through this thread to see who had recently contributed ideas or indicated a desire to take part, and found Airling and Tres. I'd like to know if those two are still interested, and the same goes for everyone else, too. We're not going to open every episode to everyone who wants to join any more, since that contributed to the disorganised scheduling and recording of the show in the past, but we do need to know who we can call on. :)

We (probably Vader, after discussion) will post an agenda ahead of each show so the guests know what they might need to read up on. I don't mind giving him editorial control to decide what segments are included - we can pitch our ideas to him.


Scheduling

This is important: we're going to commit to recording at the same time, every time. That time is going to be in the afternoon/early evening for Northern Americans and in the late evening for Europeans. That time is the best compromise, since 90% of our community (at a guess) comes from those two regions. It's unfair to have a show that is exclusive to one particular region. We're not trying to exclude people from the other 10%, either, but they might find the timing is awkward.

We're going to aim for a show every two weeks, or every fortnight, as some people call it. ;) The thinking is that any more would be too much for the host and guests, but any less would be too little for our listeners. We'll adapt if necessary/possible. We'll probably leave this thread for podcast discussion only, making a new one for podcast organising and then a new, separate thread for every published episode.

Vader suggested using Google Hangouts instead of Skype for better sound quality. I'm totally fine with that since Skype is horrible. We'll expect all our guests to have decent microphones/headsets, which means I'll need to get one myself. :monster:


Editing and promotion

Vader said he can take care of the editing. We're going to try to keep the shows at a more or less constant length of 45-60 minutes each. Episodes will be published on the front page and iTunes. Vader, I think those Bulb covers are a bit too heavy to be our theme music. We have a lot of music hosted on TLS already, so it would make sense to use something from there, like Pixel did with HypochondriacPiano's arrangements in the past. Nothing too melancholy though. :) We also need to make sure we have permission to use whatever music we end up using.


Thoughts?
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
I'm definitely still interested, but my ability to participate will come down almost entirely to what the time is for these things. Starting Tuesday, I'll be working from 11:00 p.m. UTC to 11:00 a.m. UTC (19:00-7:00 by the 24-hour reckoning) four days a week.

That's 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. on the east coast of the United States.

It's also possible I'll need to be asleep when I am available. :monster: Let me know what time and what day of the week you guys had in mind.
 
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vaderSW1

Dark Knight of the Red Wings
Here we are then. Participating in the call were Vader, Lex, Carlie and myself, though Carlie was mostly playing Witcher 3. :P


Content

We agreed that news about Final Fantasy and related games/franchises should play an important part in the show. I suggested that we could begin the show with a quick roundup of news stories before moving onto discussion and other features.

We want to get the audience more involved in the podcast. We could read comments on the show and respond to them. Vader also suggested we could invite people to ask for Final Fantasy game tips. It feels a bit old-fashioned to me, since there's a lot of information easily available on the internet already, but maybe that's part of the charm.

We can have "shows within the show", recurring features that take up, say, five minutes in each episode. Some ideas we had for this are:

  • Updates on Final Fantasy XIV (and possibly XI) from someone who actively plays it.
  • A Final Fantasy retrospective where we look at each game in the series individually.
  • A play-along series (a "book club for games", as I described it) where the guests on the show play through a game together and discuss their experiences, again encouraging audience participation as well. There could be some overlap with our existing community events, like the community playthroughs.
  • Interviews with creators of fan works - people who have remixed Final Fantasy music, published fan art or fiction, and so on.

Structure/participants

We discussed some other podcasts we listen to for comparison. I think all the shows we listen to have permanent hosts and more or less the same guests in each show. As a listener, that's part of the appeal - you get to know the personalities and can follow what's going on in their lives (e.g. what games they're playing). That's the structure we're going to go with.

Vader offered to be the host (as well as the editor/publisher). I'd be happy to give him a go, but as we've had other people hosting in the past, Lex thought it would be a good idea to ask in this thread first in case anyone objects. So, what do you say? I know he's new but he's definitely got the enthusiasm for this that everyone else seems to be lacking.

We thought we'd try and keep the shows reasonably small, with about three guests in each episode in addition to the host. This isn't a hard limit; two or four would also be fine, depending on how many people are available. My thinking is that we'll have a pool of about six guests who we can rotate depending on what we're going to be covering in a particular episode. So if there's been some Kingdom Hearts news, for example, we can invite someone on who is knowledgeable on the series. I'd hardly be able to put two words together on the subject myself. Well, apart from "Kingdom" and "Hearts". :monster:

Lex and I both volunteered to appear on the show. If I recall correctly, Carlie wasn't so committal (maybe because she was distracted), but said she was available as well. I looked through this thread to see who had recently contributed ideas or indicated a desire to take part, and found Airling and Tres. I'd like to know if those two are still interested, and the same goes for everyone else, too. We're not going to open every episode to everyone who wants to join any more, since that contributed to the disorganised scheduling and recording of the show in the past, but we do need to know who we can call on. :)

We (probably Vader, after discussion) will post an agenda ahead of each show so the guests know what they might need to read up on. I don't mind giving him editorial control to decide what segments are included - we can pitch our ideas to him.


Scheduling

This is important: we're going to commit to recording at the same time, every time. That time is going to be in the afternoon/early evening for Northern Americans and in the late evening for Europeans. That time is the best compromise, since 90% of our community (at a guess) comes from those two regions. It's unfair to have a show that is exclusive to one particular region. We're not trying to exclude people from the other 10%, either, but they might find the timing is awkward.

We're going to aim for a show every two weeks, or every fortnight, as some people call it. ;) The thinking is that any more would be too much for the host and guests, but any less would be too little for our listeners. We'll adapt if necessary/possible. We'll probably leave this thread for podcast discussion only, making a new one for podcast organising and then a new, separate thread for every published episode.

Vader suggested using Google Hangouts instead of Skype for better sound quality. I'm totally fine with that since Skype is horrible. We'll expect all our guests to have decent microphones/headsets, which means I'll need to get one myself. :monster:


Editing and promotion

Vader said he can take care of the editing. We're going to try to keep the shows at a more or less constant length of 45-60 minutes each. Episodes will be published on the front page and iTunes. Vader, I think those Bulb covers are a bit too heavy to be our theme music. We have a lot of music hosted on TLS already, so it would make sense to use something from there, like Pixel did with HypochondriacPiano's arrangements in the past. Nothing too melancholy though. :) We also need to make sure we have permission to use whatever music we end up using.


Thoughts?

A few thoughts:

1. The TLS.Net Final Fantasy Retrospective series is actually intended to be full episodes dedicated to the discussion of each game in the series. I don't want to short-change anything. There are plenty of things we can talk about for each game that would burn up the hour.

2. If we have a show where we have a lot to say on the matter, then we can record long and I can split the conversation into two episodes.

3. My next door neighbor is a big Final Fantasy fan also and, if needed, he can be a third regular host.

4. I'm cool with having something more laid back for the show intro. A cover of "Ahead On Our Way" would be awesome for outro music. I'm really partial to Bulb and Haunted Shore's cover of "Ahead On Our Way" but I'm not sure if you would feel it would be too heavy.

https://youtu.be/8_uxvFNaIyk
 

Lex

Administrator
I don't have any problem with music choice and I really loved those metal covers you linked to before Vader. There's a part of me that feels like metal is a bit stereotypical in some way though? For an FF podcast I mean. I like it but I might be inclined to go for something a bit more unusual.

I have nothing to add to the larger points brought up, I said enough when we were discussing them :monster:
 
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