So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[Dashell]

Guys, it's pretty damn clear that Cloud's love interest is Aeris/th.

Sorry to say it but, anyone claiming he loves anyone else are just in denial.

Nomura and Nojima are in denial?

 

[Shadowfox]

I mean, how hard can it be to come up with ONE creator statement or ONE scene that shows ROMANTIC interest on Cloud's part.

Especially a statement or scene that's consistent with everything in the entire story of the compilation instead of one single moment isolated from context.

I mean, how the heck am I supposed to believe that "I think I can meet her there" is a romantic Clerith statement when Cloud himself completely disregards it to live his life with Tifa?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

I mean, how hard can it be to come up with ONE creator statement or ONE scene that shows ROMANTIC interest on Cloud's part. ONE? Is that too much to ask for? **sigh**

Question: What was the thought behind bringing back Aeris [in Kingdom Hearts]

Nomura: Yes, she died in Final Fantasy VII, but there's no real relation to where she was at or what role she played in FFVII. There's no relationship from FFVII to the Kingdom Hearts stories. I consider them separate stories. But if you play Kingdom Hearts, toward the end, some of the questions about the relationship between Cloud and Aeris in FFVII might be answered. It's sort of like a side story, and this was an extra bonus that I wanted to give to players.

Of course, then he goes and makes Final Mix and changes his mind about the whole "looking for someone" thing...

 

[Vendel]

Of course, then he goes and makes Final Mix and changes his mind about the whole "looking for someone" thing...

No it was always Sephy.

Also let me just quote this again.

Question: What was the thought behind bringing back Aeris [in Kingdom Hearts]

Nomura: Yes, she died in Final Fantasy VII, but there's no real relation to where she was at or what role she played in FFVII. There's no relationship from FFVII to the Kingdom Hearts stories. I consider them separate stories. But if you play Kingdom Hearts, toward the end, some of the questions about the relationship between Cloud and Aeris in FFVII might be answered. It's sort of like a side story, and this was an extra bonus that I wanted to give to players.

And let me just point out once again. KH or any other game have no bearing on the compilation of FFVII. They could have Cloud and Aerith fucking in an AU game and it means exactly jack and shit.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well, it'd mean that two alternate versions of Cloud and Aerith in a parallel, alternate universe fucked.

The ones from FFVII however...are not the ones from Kingdom Hearts. The end.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

But if you play Kingdom Hearts, toward the end, some of the questions about the relationship between Cloud and Aeris in FFVII might be answered.

I take it this was what you're trying to imply "could" be romantic. I however, have played KH and found nothing about Cloud and Aerith romantic. The relationship I took from it was that Aerith is his personal cheerleader, a friend and a supporter. It was almost creepily sibling, IMO. But that was my take on it.

So, again, I ask, where is the romance?

If I take that quote and what was revealed in KH, then all I learn is that Aerith is a true friend and champion of Cloud and that she worries and cares for Cloud. Which... I already knew. So...?

 

[Makoeyes987]

And then they turn around and go make Tifa his light in KH2, where he finally returns back to Hollow Bastion, his home.

C wat they did thar?

 

[Dashell]

Pissed the Cleriths off?

Proved yet again that C/T is canon?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

And then they turn around and go make Tifa his light in KH2, where he finally returns back to Hollow Bastion, his home.

Did he? I recall Cloud vanishing to go fight somewhere else.

 

[Ryushikaze]

So, To my adoring public, specifically, Susan, I ask again 'So what are everyone else's crystals supposed to be, then?'
Don't worry if it doesn't make sense, folks. Susan will know. She'll know.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

Huh?

 

[Madame Mayor]

Did he? I recall Cloud vanishing to go fight somewhere else.

Ya, it's something like that. Either way Tifa is Cloud's light, and Aerith is his very supportive friend. Kind of like AC. Tifa is Cloud's love interest and the person who pushes him to move forward, and Aerith helps along too because she cares deeply about him.

It's almost like the movie and KH were suppose to have parallels or something... oh wait.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Huh?

Just a comment directed at a particular vocal but cowardly critic, Drake. Unlike Susan, I prefer to make callouts and the like a public affair.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

Ya, it's something like that. Either way Tifa is Cloud's light, and Aerith is his very supportive friend. Kind of like AC. Tifa is Cloud's love interest and the person who pushes him to move forward, and Aerith helps along too because she cares deeply about him.

It's almost like the movie and KH were suppose to have parallels or something... oh wait.

With the exception of Tifa as Cloud's love interest, I agree, AC and KH have several parallels. I think when I hung out at CloudxAerith forums there was a topic about that.

 

[Madame Mayor]

There was an actual quote stating that KH and AC were suppose to have parallels. Cloud running away from what makes him happy, etc.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Did he? I recall Cloud vanishing to go fight somewhere else.

What I meant by Cloud returning to his home, was him coming back to Hollow Bastion after hanging around Olympus Colosseum and traveling the other worlds, like he did in KH1.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

What I meant by Cloud returning to his home, was him coming back to Hollow Bastion after hanging around Olympus Colosseum and traveling the other worlds, like he did in KH1.

That's KH1 then. Tifa wasn't in in KH1, but who did Cloud return to in the ending? Oh yeah.

PS - I'm not really interested in debating the Clerith thing, I'm just fucking with you guys.

 

[Vendel]

That's KH1 then. Tifa wasn't in in KH1, but who did Cloud return to in the ending? Oh yeah.

PS - I'm not really interested in debating the Clerith thing, I'm just fucking with you guys.

Meh the whole KH thing is a distraction by Cleriths. And it doesn't even help plug holes in that sinking ship.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

...but who did Cloud return to in the ending? Oh yeah.

Is it Squall? I'm pretty sure it's Squall, erm "Leon". Yeah! Oh, yeah!

 

[KissTheRain]

SquallxCloudxAerith, my favorite OTP3. Lol, you know Squall Leon was like "Rinoa who?" the whole series.

Spoiler: That's right...

Come on they got the whole brunette thing going...

 

[Winter]

SquallxCloudxAerith, my favorite OTP3. Lol, you know Squall Leon was like "Rinoa who?" the whole series.

Spoiler: That's right...

Come on they got the whole brunette thing going...

I SHIP IT HARD. SO HARD. A THOUSAND TIMES HARD. no really I adore them but in a "lover I don't have to love" sort of way. Mmm, sex.

also aerith/cissnei

yes, yes, and yes

 

[Dashell]

SO.... did you get those sources?

 

[Celes Chere]

SO.... did you get those sources?

Imagination Land?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

You want sources? You want sources?

You can't handle the sources!

Hm, I should find a pic to caption with that.

EDIT - found one!

 

[Splintered]

That's KH1 then. Tifa wasn't in in KH1, but who did Cloud return to in the ending? Oh yeah.

PS - I'm not really interested in debating the Clerith thing, I'm just fucking with you guys.

Kingdom Hearts is riddled with ltd irony, I think Noruma puts in the hints just to mess with people's heads.

For example: Two common Cloud/Aerith debate points are

1> Kingdom Hearts TOTALLY has ties to the original intent of FFVII

and

2> Cloud left Tifa in AC, which means he never wants to be with her ever.

But Cloud in the ending of KH meets up with Aerith.... and then he left her because he obviously wasn't satisfied with being there. It's a similar situation except Cloud never returns to Aerith and well, that place was never considered his "home" with his "children."

So by that logic, Cloud doesn't love Tifa OR Aerith. I mean, they can't have it both ways. But they do anyway, and it makes no sense. But most of the LTD does not in any case.