So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[DrakeClawfang]

What is it that Tifa won't do if she doesn't like Cloud as much that she would have done if she had? Both have the pair snuggling under the stars, so why would the low-affection scene say "you heard" rather that "you saw" if snuggling was what she was so embarrassed about?

Because in the low-affection version they don't have sex, Tifa just gives him a handjob and the party overhears.

c wut i did thar?

You should hear my version of the gondola fade-out...

 

[Splintered]

ngl, I have a hard time believing they had sex as well. Probably because I was eleven when I first saw that scene and the thought never crossed my mind as I grew older. It just seems strange to me that these guys who can barely confess their own feeling and never shown a strong physical moment just had sex, and then never talked about it afterwards ever.

I always thought they just, you know, embraced each other intimately and shared their feelings, and that Tifa was just so incredibly shy about everything so it embarrassed her.

But it's not out of the realm of possibility. It just seems so... awkward that it is never mentioned again. Or maybe I just can't break away from the childhood mindset.

You should hear my version of the gondola fade-out...

Does it involve ninjas?

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Does it involve ninjas?

Yuffie. That is all.

Also, clearly, she had oral sex with him and she didn't want the party to hear how noisily she slurps.

 

[Isabella]

It just seems so... awkward that it is never mentioned again.

I'm not really sure how that would work.

"Hey Cloud, I know you're emo-ing right now, but remember the first time we had sex ....?"

"Hey Tifa, I can't go after the children because I'm afraid I'll fail. Oh hey, remember the first time we had sex ... ?"

Though Cloud does acknowledge at the start of CoT that the nature of their relationship had changed. "I have you with me now, in a way that's different from before."

 

[Dashell]

Though Cloud does acknowledge at the start of CoT that the nature of their relationship had changed. "I have you with me now, in a way that's different from before.... and remember the first time we had sex?"

 

[Isabella]

Well, considering it was the night before, I certainly hope she remembers it.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

Here. I didn't care if it was asked for, I wanted to do it anyway. :p

Spoiler

Aeris: I want to meet you.
Cloud: But I'm right here.
Aeris: (I know, I know... what I mean is...) I want to meet...... you.
Cloud: Still right here Aeris.
Aeris: Yeesh, take a hint! I want sex, you dumb blond!
Cloud: Sex? With me!?
Aeris: No, with Barret, of course with you!
Cloud: Aeris, you're cute but I'm just not ready.
Aeris: Then get ready! I haven't spent all this time listening to your emo whining about Sephiroth for you to chicken out on me now! Now get over here and get that shirt off mister!
Cloud: *leans out the window* help me!
Aeris: You're not going anywhere! *pulls Cloud back in and hits his head on the window frame*
Aeris: You're still not getting out of this! *starts to take Cloud's pants off*

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*they get off the gondola*

Aeris: I had fun tonight. Too bad you fell asleep.
Cloud: Yeah...why are my clothes sticky?

 

[Smaddy]

I think something physical happened on Tifa and Cloud's night under the Highwind only because the conversation ends with Tifa saying there are ways to communicate other than using words, and then it fades out. So that even says a lot.

How awkward was that, then?
Cloud: "Uh yeah, everyone just watched us... ... ... Umm, let's go get Sephiroth! Yeah!"

 

[Neutron Ronnie]

Cloud: *leans out the window* help me!

LMFAO.

Btw, our new Clerith hasn't come back?

 

[Vendel]

It just seems so... awkward that it is never mentioned again.

Do Cloud and Tifa seem like the type to bring it up?

Plus that isn't exactly something you can give little callbacks to. Unlike the promise and "your late".

 

[KissTheRain]

Idk I saw the callback..was I the only one that saw the fuck me smile at the end of AC?

 

[Vendel]

Idk I saw the callback..was I the only one that saw the fuck me smile at the end of AC?

Instead of Tifa saying "your late" the next callback will be "I'm late".

 

[KissTheRain]

I always liked "harder", but that's just my taste.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Given the facts that the creators themselves stated that the scene was intended to be risque--and even toned down from it's ORIGINAL version--I'd say it's more than logical that the scene was intended to be sexual. I mean, c'mon, this is a game where you break into a whore house, cross dress, have homosexual flirtations, and kick Don Corneo's pedo-ass after he decides he wants to fuck 14 year old Yuffie... if those scenes were "seen" just imagine what was "too risque" to be seen, and it sure as shit ain't "cuddling".

And as for reference to it--the entire next scene is reference to it. Tifa being embarrassed by the others is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the main plot of the story and ONLY serves to hammer home the fact that "something" happened between her and Cloud. Whether you think the character would or wouldn't--whether they seem too shy--or IRL it wouldn't go down like that--is completely wasted argument, because the fact is they did. The lengths their intimacy went to is sort of "up to you", but copping out with an "I think maybe they snuggled" is almost laughable given the context.

There's more evidence that Cloud and Tifa fucked beneath the Highwind than there is in the entire compilation that he ever had romantic interest in Aerith.

 

[Vendel]

and kick Don Corneo's pedo-ass after he decides he wants to fuck 14 year old Yuffie...

To be fair she was 16. Old enough to drive old enough to ride amirite?

And as for reference to it--the entire next scene is reference to it. Tifa being embarrassed by the others is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the main plot of the story and ONLY serves to hammer home the fact that "something" happened between her and Cloud.

Well rejection is embarrassing. Or confirming friendship. GAWD if someone caught me doing that.

Although humorously enough. If a fabled 3rd highwind scene where Cloud really does reject Tifa existed. The mere fact that hours after the final battle he tells Tifa that he wants to "be with her" kind of negates that possibility yes?

There's more evidence that Cloud and Tifa fucked beneath the Highwind than there is in the entire compilation that he ever had romantic interest in Aerith.

OH SNAP!!! Funny because it's true.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

To be fair she was 16. Old enough to drive old enough to ride amirite?

She suffered from a Plot-Relevant Age Up in the NA release, but in the Japanese version she was 14. Probably due to the fact Don Corneo was being motherfucking creepy.

 

[Madame Mayor]

I think the best part about the "words aren't the only way..." line is that everyone always cherry-picks it as if Tifa just randomly hitting on Cloud.

Tifa has seen Cloud's inner thoughts, she knows his feelings, but whether he remembers what she confessed isn't quite clear. Considering his own mind wanted Tifa to tell the real Cloud about it, my guess is he doesn't. So Cloud starts talking about not being able to say what he means, things not changing... and Tifa GETS THE HINT.

She's trying to make it easier on Cloud because she knows what he wants to say, but also knows he might be embarrassed or worried she doesn't feel the same way. Hence the line. An invitation saying, "Yes Cloud, I know how you feel, and I feel the same way."

Then of course our classic fade to black, and them waking up the next morning in each other's arms. If the scene was a meaningless rejection, they wouldn't have had someone else direct the bloody thing to look like a classic movie scene. [/rant]

 

[Reith123]

agreed. also, 1 more vote till 100 O.O who will it be!?

 

[paoo]

and kick Don Corneo's pedo-ass after he decides he wants to fuck 14 year old Yuffie...

And rip his balls off.

And as for reference to it--the entire next scene is reference to it. Tifa being embarrassed by the others is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the main plot of the story and ONLY serves to hammer home the fact that "something" happened between her and Cloud. Whether you think the character would or wouldn't--whether they seem too shy--or IRL it wouldn't go down like that--is completely wasted argument, because the fact is they did. The lengths their intimacy went to is sort of "up to you", but copping out with an "I think maybe they snuggled" is almost laughable given the context.

I get so frustrated when people is ignore the facts.
It's like: "Lalala, can't hear you rabid Clotis!!123 Flowers, pink, Cleris forevah!!11123 lol cloti sukz"

Not that it's a FACT that Cloud and Tifa fucked on a bunch of rocks, but something happens between them. Deal with it, you rabids.

 

[Vendel]

She suffered from a Plot-Relevant Age Up in the NA release, but in the Japanese version she was 14. Probably due to the fact Don Corneo was being motherfucking creepy.

Well she is 18 in AC correct? So by the power of new overrides old she was 16 in FFVII.

 

[Ryushikaze]

She suffered from a Plot-Relevant Age Up in the NA release, but in the Japanese version she was 14. Probably due to the fact Don Corneo was being motherfucking creepy.

Well she is 18 in AC correct? So by the power of new overrides old she was 16 in FFVII.

I don't know where this nonsense about Yuffie being 14 in FF7 comes from.

It's not there. She's 16 in EVERY JP source I can find.

 

[KissTheRain]

The lengths their intimacy went to is sort of "up to you", but copping out with an "I think maybe they snuggled" is almost laughable given the context.

I think it was more than snuggling, but less than anything sexual. Maybe heavy petting and forehead kisses, sweet stuff ya know?

There's more evidence that Cloud and Tifa fucked beneath the Highwind than there is in the entire compilation that he ever had romantic interest in Aerith.

Lol go find a Clerith to say that to it will be for the lulz.

Not that it's a FACT that Cloud and Tifa fucked on a bunch of rocks, but something happens between them. Deal with it, you rabids.

Your not neccisarly rabid for interpreting the scene different. Yes you could be dilussional, possibly slow, or maybe just have a different opinion doesn't always make them "rabid".

I don't know where this nonsense about Yuffie being 14 in FF7 comes from.

Me neither, it says she is 16 in my gamebook so that's what i'm sticking by. /:

 

[Vendel]

Your not neccisarly rabid for interpreting the scene different. Yes you could be dilussional, possibly slow, or maybe just have a different opinion doesn't always make them "rabid".

No. Interpreting the entire compilation as some sort of epic/tragic Clerith love story is what makes you them rabid.

 

[KissTheRain]

No. Interpreting the entire compilation as some sort of epic/tragic Clerith love story is what makes you them rabid.

You can't say all Cleriths are rabid, only the ones that attack you and push their beliefs on you like Christianity are rabid. If you like Clerith, why not just let them be.

 

[A]

Then of course our classic fade to black, and them waking up the next morning in each other's arms. If the scene was a meaningless rejection, they wouldn't have had someone else direct the bloody thing to look like a classic movie scene. [/rant]

Cloud's really just a bitch if the Clerii are claiming that he rejected her in that scene.