So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[DrakeClawfang]

it makes no sense. But most of the LTD does not in any case.

Amen to that.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Fuck yeah, my Chemistry and Biology homework is finally done!

...so did anything relevant actually happen?

 

[Splintered]

Amen to that.

I know right? It's good to know that whether I'm 12 or in my twenties, I can jump into an LTD and always think, "Okay, what the fuck is that suppose to mean?"

It's comforting. Or horrifying. Either one.

 

[I Am Not Me]

I saw some intense diskashuns going on the last several pages. If someone would be so kind as to summarize?

Welcome to the new Clerith? Or not? What are you? O_o Sorry, I wasn't paying much attention.

SquallxCloudxAerith, my favorite OTP3. Lol, you know Squall Leon was like "Rinoa who?" the whole series.

Spoiler: That's right...

Come on they got the whole brunette thing going...

KTR, that was an awesome pic. I agree with your OT3... if and only if we're pertaining to the LeonxCloud aspect of it and not CloudxAerith. I still don't really like them together unless in fanart (or sometimes fanfics, or sometimes when I'm feeling Clerith-y which I don't right now). And I like LeonxCloud loads better in comparison to any other Cloud pairing in KH--but if Zack was there... I can't even tell if I like LeonxCloud the same as LeonxAerith.

I've been converted by some fanfics to TifaxLeonxAerith though. Cloud can go with Goofy or whatever (in KH only).

also aerith/cissnei

That would be a lot hotter if you throw Zack into the mix.

SO.... did you get those sources?

Imagination Land?

The Promised Land?

You want sources? You want sources?

You can't handle the sources!

Hm, I should find a pic to caption with that.

I can handle sources. And you should totally find a pic caption.


I think we should all start citing our sources.

Cloud loves Tifa (Nojima et al., 1997).
Edit:

So by that logic, Cloud doesn't love Tifa OR Aerith. I mean, they can't have it both ways. But they do anyway, and it makes no sense. But most of the LTD does not in any case.

I always thought the LTD won't make any sense because people keep thinking it's all up to interpretation thus arguing their own interpretations, instead of just looking at things simply and getting to the most logical point readily available.

 

[Celes Chere]

The Promised Land?

Hell?

 

[Vendel]

So Q (and anyone else for that matter) do you still insist that Cloud and Tifa did not have sex under the Highwind?

 

[KissTheRain]

I don't think they did, you see once they got their new apartment though to celebrate..

 

[Isabella]

I am curious whether the NO SEXXORS people think they at least did something physical in that scene.

Does Tifa's level of embarrassment really match with her simply being overseen sleeping on Cloud's shoulder?

 

[KissTheRain]

I'm not sure what they did except a little snuggling. Maybe some make out could have happened, but I'm gonna say just snuggling for now and maybe, maybe a peck/kiss to the forehead.

 

[Makoeyes987]

They may not have had sex, but I don't see how its beyond the realm of possibility (no, reality) that they didn't at least kiss and touch each other.

Again, you don't just feel embarrassed snuggling against someone everyone and their mother knows you like. Why would Tifa be embarrassed over people seeing her cuddle Cloud when they saw her hold him while comatose, rest her head in his lap, talk about how much she needs to be by his side, and all of the other actions that show she loves him?

She obviously did something.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

They may not have had sex, but I don't see how its beyond the realm of possibility (no, reality) that they didn't at least kiss and touch each other.

Again, you don't just feel embarrassed snuggling against someone everyone and their mother knows you like. Why would Tifa be embarrassed over people seeing her cuddle Cloud when they saw her hold him while comatose, rest her head in his lap, talk about how much she needs to be by his side, and all of the other actions that show she loves him?

She obviously did something.

Here's my image of the Highwind scene.

Tifa: Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking...
Cloud: Huh?
Tifa: I'm trying to be subtle.
Cloud: About what?
Tifa: Fuck it. Take me now you stud!
Cloud: Wha?
Tifa: You heard me Cloud! Let's knock boots, right here, right now!
Cloud: No way!
Tifa: Why not?
Cloud: Uh...there's pointy rocks on the ground, we could get hurt!
Tifa: Then you be on top.
Cloud: I'm too heavy, I'll crush you, not gonna happen.
Tifa: ? What's going on Cloud?
Cloud: Uh...the truth is Tifa, I'm gonna remain a virgin for two more years so I can have spirit sex with Aerith in a flowerfield.
Tifa: What? You jackass! And to think I saved myself to give to you!
Cloud: You still can! Just, ya'know, wait your turn.
Tifa: *punches Cloud in the head. Cloud falls to the ground unconscious. Tifa looks down at him and begins to take his pants off*

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Cloud: *wakes up woozy*...it's almost dawn. What I miss? And why are my clothes sticky?

 

[Celes Chere]

Well, I'm scarred for life. Congratulations.

 

[Fighter]

We should have a new poll about the Highwind scene.

 

[Dashell]

I am curious whether the NO SEXXORS people think they at least did something physical in that scene.

Yes.

 

[Vendel]

Yes.

If I remember don't you refuse to believe they had sex because of your own irrational fear of being watched yourself?

 

[Dashell]

Also yes

and there's other stuff in here but it'd get too personal so we'll just go with that.

BTW, whoever did this has my undying love:
http://thelifestream.net/forums/member.php?u=790

 

[Vendel]

Also yes

and there's other stuff in here but it'd get too personal so we'll just go with that.

So your projecting your own personal interpretation on what Cloud and Tifa would do eh?

Instead of putting yourself in their position you are putting them in yours.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Vendel, Dark Malak, Peter Pan, whatever you're going by--it's not uncommon for people to project themselves upon the characters. It's how we relate to fictional characters. But, yes, reversing that skews the image and makes comprehension of the work muddled. It happens **shrug** but at least Q is admitting it and willing to acknowledge that personal reasons are behind that.

Cleriths self-insertion Mary Sue-ing is what boggles my mind...

 

[Vendel]

Vendel, Dark Malak, Peter Pan, whatever you're going by--

Don't make me destroy you.

it's not uncommon for people to project themselves upon the characters. It's how we relate to fictional characters. But, yes, reversing that skews the image and makes comprehension of the work muddled. It happens **shrug** but at least Q is admitting it and willing to acknowledge that personal reasons are behind that.

Yes...admitting that your own personal bias is the reason for something is nice. But saying "I would never do that" isn't really an argument for someones else's behavior now is it?

The logical extension of that line of reasoning is rather interesting I would say.

Cleriths self-insertion Mary Sue-ing is what boggles my mind...

Yes we are all boggled.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I don't really care if they had sex or not. If they did, whoo. If they didn't, they probably at least did some srs petting, sucking and all those other NSFW things. I'd be pretty embarrassed if my friends showed up and watched something like that as well.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

Well, I'm scarred for life. Congratulations.

Good, my job is done then.

 

[KissTheRain]

They may not have had sex, but I don't see how its beyond the realm of possibility (no, reality) that they didn't at least kiss and touch each other.

I just think that them both being reserved, shy people might wait to do it in Aerith's flowers, lol somewhere special, idk. But hell, it was the supposed end of the world they were most likely both virgins so why not? And with all the black and red they like to where i'd classify them as emo kids, and for anyone that has seen emo kids make out in the hallway, good god I don't wanna know what they would do outside.

Again, you don't just feel embarrassed snuggling against someone everyone and their mother knows you like.

Maybe it's because Tifa is a shy and not one to open her feelings to anyone and she just spilled her guts to a man, which she is fine being open with Cloud, but everyone? Even just cuddling I think she might being embarred seeing they weren't dating the day before and now...well now you decide, but I bet Tifa had been planning this half the game and it was her one moment to pounce and she wanted it to be private. Gawd...

Cleriths self-insertion Mary Sue-ing is what boggles my mind...

Come on, spirt sex has to be a little dirty.

 

[Isabella]

I just think that them both being reserved, shy people might wait to do it in Aerith's flowers, lol somewhere special, idk.

Shy people have sex too. Hell, my parents are both messed up and anti-social, and they had four kids.

As for somewhere special, call me crazy but I think alone under the stars is not only romantic but appropriate, given they made their promise on a star.

 

[KissTheRain]

Yeah, yeah you're right it's just I don't like to think they had sex there when their relationship is this shy, cutesy blushing relationship and sex would be a big step, imo, when I prefer the idea of them sitting under the stars to parallel the promise, just talking and snuggling the night away. :3

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

What is it that Tifa won't do if she doesn't like Cloud as much that she would have done if she had? Both have the pair snuggling under the stars, so why would the low-affection scene say "you heard" rather that "you saw" if snuggling was what she was so embarrassed about?