So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[KissTheRain]

My opinion is Cloud is a man ho and loves both. THREE WAY DEAR GAWD!!!

 

[Vendel]

That's because there's proof of a Cloud and Tifa relationship.

I think that is a more accurate statement.

 

[Eerie]

I hope we didn't scare her off

 

[Vendel]

I hope we didn't scare her off

What about us could be considered scary?

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

What about us could be considered scary?

You.

 

[Reith123]

of course tifa is winning..its obvious who cloud is in a relationship -.- or must i spin the torture wheel to see what awaits u -.-

 

[Makoeyes987]

I don't think she's had a chance to reply yet. Just give her a bit and be patient

 

[Shademp]

Soul mate? True love?

I could never acknowledge these terms, at least not in a serious discussion.
And if any author dares to call a relationship "true love" and "soul matey-like", then that's just unrealistic and lazy. I hope we never see such statements from Square.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Soul mate? True love?

I could never acknowledge these terms, at least not in a serious discussion.
And if any author dares to call a relationship "true love" and "soul matey-like", then that's just unrealistic and lazy. I hope we never see such statements from Square.

You mean...

...

...like Stephenie Meyer?

 

[Isabella]

Soul mate? True love?

I could never acknowledge these terms, at least not in a serious discussion.
And if any author dares to call a relationship "true love" and "soul matey-like", then that's just unrealistic and lazy. I hope we never see such statements from Square.

Therein lies a primary distinction between LT debaters, I find. It seems a lot of the C/A shippers I encounter are people who are craving "true love" and "soul matey" in their love stories. The other side tends to be filled with people who prefer more nuanced and complex relationship depictions.

So maybe it all comes down to taste?

 

[KissTheRain]

And if any author dares to call a relationship "true love" and "soul matey-like", then that's just unrealistic and lazy. I hope we never see such statements from Square.

So you don't like Disney? XD

 

[Vendel]

So maybe it all comes down to taste?

So what do Cloti and Clerith taste like?

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I think Cloti tastes like a good cheddar cheese and Clerith tastes like brie spread on a small piece of crusty bread. ...yes, I do really love cheese.

 

[Isabella]

Clerith is Vanilla and Cloti is Double Chocolate Brownie ... bumpier, but ultimately richer and sweeter.

I prefer ice creams.

 

[Shademp]

@ Terra
How dare you swear in this house!

@KissTheRain
Well, duh.


My view is that while it certainly isn't impossible Cloud had/has tender feelings for Aerith, too little has suggested this both in and outside of the games/movie/novels.

 

[Vendel]

Hummm I figure Clerith taste like flowers and guilt. While Cloti taste like alcohol and boobs.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Clerith tastes like a nun, while Cloti tastes like a hot dominatrix in leather.

I prefer womenz.

 

[Reith123]

prove to us cloud loves aerith -.-
obvious quotes and evidence proves c/t

 

[The White Queen]

Well I have few reasons that prove Cloud loves Aerith and Aerith loves Cloud.
I think Caitsith telling Cloud and Aerith their stars are perfect for each other and then predicting a marriage for the both of them together means a lot.

-http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/aerithlove527/FF7omga-CS323.jpg
The last fortune telling from Cat Sith No. 1.

After solving the puzzle about Cat Sith's replaceable body, he tells one last fortune of Cloud and Aerith's affinity.
The result of it turns out "Aerith-san's star and Cloud-san's star! They promise a great future!" After that, it will become a sad prediction if we get to know what would happen afterward. But if we can catch the meaning of the "future" from another angle, we can see hope.....perhaps.
Caption:
Cat Sith's lines which seem to expect Cloud and Aerith's wedding now makes it more painful.

And when Cloud says unfreezing Aerith's smile is the most important reason to fight Sephiroth, it comes off as if he is in love with her.

-Cloud: "Even so, I have to fight. So, I can leave my past behind me. So I can be myself. And above all--- to unfreeze her smile."


Also what Tifa says here;

-In Gast's home, Tifa said Cloud was even more reticent after Aerith's death. She failed finding suitable words to console him, because "he didn't seem to lose Aerith only, a piece of him also seemed lost." She kept saying that she'd never forgive Hojo.


And I've always looked at Aerith and Cloud's date as, well, romantic. That is what dates are for, for people who are romantically involved;
- In Aerith’s case, if you play the game normally, the partner that generally comes will be Aerith.


This means a lot too.
"A girl with the blood of the Ancients flowing through her veins who is engraved in Cloud's heart for the rest of his life." - DoC Manual


Also, I'm not sure what people make of this;

I think it clearly shows who Cloud is in love with.

And it seems like Cloud is always looking for Aerith. He was in the KINGDOM HEARTS series. He was in FFVII. He was in Dissidia. And I find it incredibly romantic that both of them wish and promise to meet each other and come back to one another in the story and in every other Square Enix game.

Syneiam I have not been scared off. I'll be coming back to have fun discussions. Who gets scared of things like this?

No disrespect to anyone here but, I honestly have never seen anything that leads to Cloud loving Tifa romantically. Or that they're in a relationship at all. So I'm not sure why everyone says Cloud and Tifa are together romantically if it has not been stated. I think the only girl that can have any chance of actually saying they are or were romantically involved or just in a realtionship with Cloud would be Aerith. After all, Cloud and Aerith are the two that actually went on a date.
Or should I say dates. I believe Mr. Nomura or one of the creators said that when Cloud and Aerith are in the park (before they see Tifa on the wagon) that you can call it a "date."

I don't think Cloud and Tifa have ever been on a date before have they? And I don't believe they've been said to be dating. And I don't think they're married yet, so I guess they're not in a relationship.

I guess the "family" is a relationship, though. A platonic one, Tifa says so herself in Case of Tifa. But other then a family made of friends type of relationship I don't think it's been said to be anything more then just friends.

Therein lies a primary distinction between LT debaters, I find. It seems a lot of the C/A shippers I encounter are people who are craving "true love" and "soul matey" in their love stories. The other side tends to be filled with people who prefer more nuanced and complex relationship depictions.

Well, it is a Fantasy world. Everyone of the other Final Fantasies always have true love or soul mates. Look at Tidus and Yuna. Or Squall and Rinoa. Why would a fantasy world deal with magical and mythical creatures and storyline then have a normal realtionship?
It's not like the Final Fantasy.... tradition, if you will, to have a "normal" realtionship.

So what do Cloti and Clerith taste like?

Can they have a taste?

 

[Reith123]

also CloTi smells like japanese cherry blossoms, beautiful to look at and sweet smelling.
Clerith smells like mark henry's sweaty gym socks.

 

[Vendel]

Oh snap....

 

[Isabella]

Clerith tastes like a nun, while Cloti tastes like a hot dominatrix in leather.

I prefer womenz.

I wouldn't know what women taste like. Particularly nuns.

 

[Reith123]

AU games, kh has nothing to do with ff7 whatsoever, its for enjoyment and nothing more, and i hope u know all of cait siths fortunes are mostly wrong..

 

[The White Queen]

AU games, kh has nothing to do with ff7 whatsoever, its for enjoyment and nothing more, and i hope u know all of cait siths fortunes are mostly wrong..

I'm not so sure about that. Mr. Nomura did say somewhere that the fortune "you will lose something dear" can be seen as Aerith's death. Wouldn't that mean Caitsith's fortunes aren't wrong? And I know the side games are alternate universes but they are created for a reason, do you agree?

And I don't believe what you said disproves of any of the romantic implications for Cloud and Aerith in any of those games.

Thy Queen has edited her post:
If CloudxAerith could taste like something, I think it would be something like vanilla with cookies and cream and chocolate fudge drizzled over it.

They're smell is like flowers and water, and fresh air. Very sweet and pure. Nothing over the top.

 

[Vendel]

And I know the side games are alternate universes but they are created for a reason, do you agree?

For making money. Not for advancing a romantic subplot from a completely different game universe.

And I don't believe what you said disproves of any of the romantic implications for Cloud and Aerith in any of those games.

Not that AU games matter. But you first need to prove any romantic implications for someone to disprove them yes?