The Dark Knight Rises

Ghost X

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I'd rather Joker not appear again, unless the killing joke storyline is applied. Hasn't Joker's character pretty much been fully explored? As interesting a personality he is, he comes across as quite one dimensional from all I've read/seen. If not, what other side to him am I missing?

I reckon any future appearance of Joker would only further explore Batman's character. Having said that, this could better be done with other villains, as it would simultaneously explore the new villain's character, making the movie more interesting, imo.

With Bane confirmed in the film, assuming Nolan explores his character well, I think there isn't enough room for the Joker. A minor role wouldn't really do any justice. On the other hand, if Wikipedia is correct, Hugo Strange should easily fit in to a storyline featuring Bane.

If they wanted to throw in another villain, I think Anarky would be good. I think his character would mix well with a story featuring Catwoman (though apparently Catwoman has not been confirmed, only her alter-ego =p). However, a villain-crammed storyline is generally a formula for failure.
 

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I'd rather Joker not appear again, unless the killing joke storyline is applied. Hasn't Joker's character pretty much been fully explored? As interesting a personality he is, he comes across as quite one dimensional from all I've read/seen. If not, what other side to him am I missing?

Ohhhhh there is so much you can do with the Joker and so much that has been done.
I reckon any future appearance of Joker would only further explore Batman's character. Having said that, this could better be done with other villains, as it would simultaneously explore the new villain's character, making the movie more interesting, imo.

Not really, you can do a great deal with archenemies. But for this purpose Road and I were thinking more of a cameo role, I think.
On the other hand, if Wikipedia is correct, Hugo Strange should easily fit in to a storyline featuring Bane.

Or you could have just read my posts.
If they wanted to throw in another villain, I think Anarky would be good. I think his character would mix well with a story featuring Catwoman (though apparently Catwoman has not been confirmed, only her alter-ego =p). However, a villain-crammed storyline is generally a formula for failure.

Anarky is a terrible character. Techy wannabe Joker. No thanks.

Catwoman has pretty much already been confirmed thanks to the information I posted earlier in the thread.
 

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Honestly I did like Heath Ledger's performance but the more I watch it and the more I listen to the reactions of fans, the more I think it's so fucking overrated.

When was the last time someone proactively made a museum solely dedicated to one actor?
 

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Honestly I can think of no one actor who could pull of a true, perfect portrayal as the Joker. I'd need to make some horrible abomination against God type hybrid of several, and the only thing I know I would take and from whom for sure is Mark Hamill's voice.
 

Ghost X

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Ohhhhh there is so much you can do with the Joker and so much that has been done.

Stuff that is outside the basic idea of a man who commits crime for heck of it and man who likes to make the sanest people insane though?

Or you could have just read my posts.

In this thread you've spoke nothing/very little about Hugo Strange. Are you referring to Arkham has moved? If so, I'll check later =p.

Anarky is a terrible character. Techy wannabe Joker. No thanks.

Well, I'm not claiming to be any expert, but from what I've read (from wikipedia :monster:), he's quite a different character to the Joker. For a start, he means well. He stands up for the oppressed, is anti-establishment as his name implies etc. If that is not what he is like, they could easily write him to be like that. Batman (and all superheroes) are on the opposite end of the political spectrum to Anarky. Like the Joker, Anarky could be a perfect villain, but in a different way. There would be a lot of moral ambiguity for a start.

In relation to Catwoman and what you quoted, if Selina Kyle is confirmed, why can't the guy just admit Catwoman is as well? They said if they confirmed, they'd be fired. Sounds a bit silly to me, but whatever. His comments on wardrobe may just refer to pretty dresses :monster:.
 

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Stuff that is outside the basic idea of a man who commits crime for heck of it and man who likes to make the sanest people insane though?

Yes. In his recent appearance in Action comics he spends his time chatting up philosophy with Lex Luthor. Hell he doesn't even kill anyone.

Also, he doesn't commit crime for the heck of it. His one motive is to prove to the world that life doesn't make sense. It's ugly, random, and hateful. He's trying to prove to the cops, the citizens and ultimately Batman himself that this is the joke.

In this thread you've spoke nothing/very little about Hugo Strange. Are you referring to Arkham has moved? If so, I'll check later =p.

I made two posts in this thread that reference Robin Williams and the possibility of him playing the role, and what that role may be.

Well, I'm not claiming to be any expert, but from what I've read (from wikipedia :monster:), he's quite a different character to the Joker. For a start, he means well. He stands up for the oppressed, is anti-establishment as his name implies etc. If that is not what he is like, they could easily write him to be like that. Batman (and all superheroes) are on the opposite end of the political spectrum to Anarky. Like the Joker, Anarky could be a perfect villain, but in a different way. There would be a lot of moral ambiguity for a start.

Well obviously no one is accusing you of that :monster:, but Anarky has never really been a stand up guy(well the original is now, after teaming up with Red Robin). He's another psycho through and through, and to be honest he's never really been a Batman villain. His motives were his only real staple, and even that's changed with the guy who was under the robe. Hell after his initial appearances he clashed more with Robin that Batman.

He's a small time villain at that. I doubt he's gonna be as interesting to studios as any of Batman's real rogues.
In relation to Catwoman and what you quoted, if Selina Kyle is confirmed, why can't the guy just admit Catwoman is as well? They said if they confirmed, they'd be fired. Sounds a bit silly to me, but whatever. His comments on wardrobe may just refer to pretty dresses :monster:.

Yes, she had a costume test for a superhero film that was for dresses. Even you don't believe what you're saying there.

It's just the production team being coy again to try and hype up the eventual appearance of Catwoman. There's not even a point to including Selina Kyle if she's not going to be showing her true self.
 

Gym Leader Devil

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The Dark Knight movies are supposed to be a trilogy aren't they? Unless I am way off on that, I gotta agree, putting Selina Kyle in the film without Catwoman would be silly since there isn't even a sequel tease in it.
 

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Yeah Nolan keeps parroting that this is his last film.
 

Gym Leader Devil

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So what I say is true then, unless he changes his mind on this matter Nolan would have genuinely no reason to put Kyle in the film without also including her alter-ego. Which makes the lack of confirmation kind of pointless as well, seems like simple force of habit for Nolan and those who work with him to me.
 

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I think that this means that we'll be getting more banter between him and Tom Hardy like we saw in Inception. I approve.


X :neo:
 

Max Payne

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I don't.

Playing a Falcone is a waste of his talent.

He deserves a better role imo.
 

Animexcel

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I don't.

Playing a Falcone is a waste of his talent.

He deserves a better role imo.

I don't think you should be judging based on the first film's character of the same last name.

Chris Nolan wouldn't let any talent go to waste.
 
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Max Payne

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I don't think you should be judging based on the first film's character of the same last name.

Chris Nolan wouldn't let any talent go to waste.

I'm basing this on the history the Falcone family. They've always been two bit thugs with ideas bigger than their brains.

Also, I don't care what you think I should be doing mate :awesome:
 
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In your defence, Rachel Dawes was a terrible character. so idk dawg.
 

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Good thing they wasted her, let's hope Selina or whoever is gonna step up for the finale.
 
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