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Ryushikaze

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Tim, Ryu
Well, we have gotten an 'answer' to the 'where does Cloud express romantic interest towards Aerith', in that people think that her death sequence and his words to Sephiroth are romantic, but these same people generally fail to take into account (or make convincing excuses for) the soul scream at Zack's death, or various other things.

To say nothing of the awkward and inconsistent explanation of events throughout the compilation.
 

Fairheartstrife

[no fucks given]
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FHS, that cloti bitch
Well, we have gotten an 'answer' to the 'where does Cloud express romantic interest towards Aerith', in that people think that her death sequence and his words to Sephiroth are romantic, but these same people generally fail to take into account (or make convincing excuses for) the soul scream at Zack's death, or various other things.

To say nothing of the awkward and inconsistent explanation of events throughout the compilation.

I've tried a hundred times to remove any "cloti bias" and see that scene as romantic and it just isn't. Also, it's still not romantic interest toward Aerith, in any way, even if one could so blindly misconstrue it so, as Cloud's words are to himself and Sephiroth.

I'm sorry, but the girl was following him around and practically throwing herself at him, all he had to do was accept, but he didn't. Made no indication that he even wanted too.
 

paoo

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Well.. the question is: if Tifa had died, what would Cloud do?
In CC when she is injured in the Reactor, Cloud carresses her check and watches her.
He thought she was a goner.
And in LO he also does that, but Tifa awakes and smiles at him. And he smiles back, it's also said in the Ultimania.

Seriously, I wouldn't do that to just "a friend". They are more than that, and they have always been friends.. But when Cloud says that "this time it's a little different" is because they got much closer. They came to realize their feelings for eachother, and are now starting a life together.
It's so obvious to me, so I really wanna see where-in-the-game some people see Cloud showing romantical feelings towards Aerith.

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A

Great Old One
In CC when she is injured in the Reactor, Cloud carresses her check and watches her.
He thought she was a goner.
And in LO he also does that, but Tifa awakes and smiles at him. And he smiles back, it's also said in the Ultimania.
Yes, but it's in the past. :awesome:
 

loverofCloud

Pro Adventurer
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DarkTifa
anyway in kh final mix he meets Sephiroth. Couldn't be that the light he was looking for was just defeating his enemy? And how i said on another thread i'm starting to think seriously that Cloud loves his motorcycle and nobody else. lol
 

null.

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And hell freezes over.
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Come on SE. If Archie can upset legions of fans, Cloud can do it too.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30983247/?GT1=43001#storyContinued

After 68 years of waffling, Archie Andrews has made his choice. It’s the raven-haired heiress over the girl next door, Veronica Lodge over Betty Cooper.

Just eight days after Archie Comics announced that Archie would finally choose between his two high-school hotties, the word is out: Archie gets down on bended knee to present Veronica with his proposal and a ring while poor Betty looks on and wipes away a tear. Veronica replies to the proposal with a resounding “Yes!”

The red-haired all-American boy’s choice is likely to upset many Archie fans. Ever since news that Archie would get married broke, they have been filling the message boards at ArchieComics.com with their opinions on which girl should get the ring.

It’s not even close. A strong majority feel wholesome Betty should get the nod over snooty Veronica.

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Alessa Gillespie

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People still care about Archie? That's the most shocking thing in this whole thread.
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
LOL XD

I only saw a few episode of that serie - Veronica seemed the logical choice, but since I know jack about it, yeah, that's pretty much it ROFL XD

But seriously, I don't think that Cloud needs to propose Tifa. They're already a married couple - minus the ring. :monster:
 

mentaz

bubbles
I can clearly see ourselves with 80 years old in front of a computer and still posting on this thread. And telling our grandchildren about the atrocities that we encountered, the illogical arguments, and the lulz that we shared. Long live the LTD Monkeyshines!!

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OneWingedDemon

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I always liked Veronica better! You made my day, nullzy!

Now what`s this KH business?

What Cloud tells Sora in KH1 is that he was looking for someone and tried to exploit the power of darkness to do so (Hades promised to help find this individual). He says he fell into darkness and couldn't find "the light", referring to this light not as a person, but something.

In addition, Aeris and Cloud have plenty of chances to find each other through Sora, yet no such thing is done in KH1. Cloud isn't looking for Aeris. First of all, we are told that Aeris is a person of neither light nor darkness, but rather a normal human being who has both inside her in balance with each other. Furthermore, why would Cloud try to manipulate the power of darkness to find a creature of the light (which we are told that Aeris isn't anyway)?

And even if we entertain that thought, and agree that Aeris and Cloud find each other at the end, why is it that Cloud looks even worse in KH2 (Donald tells Cloud he looks "different" and Cloud says that it is because of "the one who embodies all the darkness in [him]") after finding Aeris? And why is it that he is still looking for his light?

In KH2, Tifa is the one literally giving off flashes of light (which often times stun Cloud, having fallen further into darkness) and is central to Cloud's fight with the embodiment of his darkness. It is Tifa who faces off against his darkness, Tifa who surrounds him with her light, and Tifa who follows Cloud and Sephiroth to continue their fight.

In case that didn't get through people's skulls, SE blatantly state that if Sephiroth is the darkness, then you could think of Tifa as the light (leaving up to interpretation if she is a human being or somethign different). They outright state Sephiroth is the one Cloud was looking for in the first installment. They also say that the flashes of light Tifa gives off (that Cloud runs from) are meant to be a throwback to Cloud running from "something warm" that Tifa represents in AC.

Cloud was never looking for Aeris, not in AUs and not in the canon material.

He isn't looking for Tifa either. He is looking to find the light within himself to balance out the growing darkness in him (and become normal, like Aeris and others).

Sephiroth embodies his darkness like Tifa embodies his light. It's not rocket science.
Tifa already told us that Cloud needs not vaquish the darkness, only surround himself with enough light to strike a balance. Tifa is there to help him do that, like Sephiroth is there to keep pulling him into darkness.

People (pinkers) ran with the idea of Aeris = Cloud's light because they were both in the same game and as proven by their comments regarding Itadaki, Cloud & Aeris standing within a few feet of each other in a boardgame is enough proof.

When Tifa entered the picture they panicked and started backpedaling and saying things like "well, NOW he's looking for his own light, but before he was totally looking for Aeris".

BS. SE has never tried to pander to that group in any way. The opposite is true.
That's why it's hilarious that despite all their light = true love crap in the past, it is Tifa that Square decides should embody Cloud's light in Kingdom Hearts. The pinkers froth at the mouth because they just can't stand that simple fact.
 
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Ryushikaze

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Tim, Ryu
While hilarious, Archie LTDrama belong in other LT thread.

Oddwod, an echo of everything you just said.

Addendum: Archie is an American comic, and the seminal example of a Love Triangle not being solved, seeing as it's gone on for over six decades now. Archie is also the main character, and the point of the triangle, with Betty and Veronica as the bases. Cheryl makes a third base for a love pyramid.

I wonder if we'll get 'Cooperites', now. Folks who insist against all sense that he REALLY wanted to propose to Betty, but Veronica got in the way.

That's assuming this doesn't get tossed like the last time the Archie LT got closed.
 
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Celes Chere

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Noctis
Damn this thread. A lot can happen in two days! :monster:

1. could NEVER be.
2. The FFVIII Commercial says 8 is a story of a man trying to win the heart of the woman he loves. The opposite is the case. The '3' commercial shows mog interviewing monsters and being responsible for being in the game. The 6 commercial showed Tina, in magitech, appearing in Tokyo. The IV commercials showed an ostrich running across a beach.
Marketing is not inherently trustworthy.

1- Lol, I like how this is actually supposed to be considered as more romantic. Back when I was in the Clerith Forums, I asked about it. "Since it says a love that could never be, wouldn't that mean they can't be together?"
No, apparently it is showing the great tragedy and emphasizing their love. And of course, they don't mean literally NEVER.
2. ITS A FOOKING COMMERCIAL. Some people are really, really... I'm sorry, just plain ignorant.

Lmao @ Hatred that always was.

He was just pretending to look up to Sephiroth, obviously. :awesome: He secretly hated him all along.

And I still think Tifa's a slut

LOL. Well I still think Aerith is flashing her vag.

in KH1 he said he was looking for his light which is implyed to be Aerith because he meets her at the end like the other couples in the game.

KH2 negates that, though. He's still looking for his light, and Aerith even said his light will lead him back. Who is associated with light? Tifa. Who isn't? Aerith. They're spelling it out in KH2. Aerith is not Cloud's light.

....And we're still waiting for an answer.

What did you expect? It always happens. Guys, STOP ATTACKING AND STALKING PEOPLE!
 

I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
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Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
Damn this thread. A lot can happen in two days! :monster:

Which is why you should always stick around and wait for the lulz. :monster:

LOL. Well I still think Aerith is flashing her vag.

OHMAILOL :awesome:

KH2 negates that, though. He's still looking for his light, and Aerith even said his light will lead him back. Who is associated with light? Tifa. Who isn't? Aerith. They're spelling it out in KH2. Aerith is not Cloud's light.

So in Dissidia he's actually looking for Tifa? Or himself? Or Zack? :awesome:

I always thought that him looking for light in KH/2 is him looking for his real self. Isn't this parallel with FFVII? Aerith supports him in his search for his light and told him it will lead him back to where he belongs, in FFVII, she knows he isn't himself and would like to meet him. I think it's the same thing, just with different dialogues and universes. Tifa is the embodiment of his light because Tifa is the only one who can help him find his true self. Therefore, in a way, he's actually looking for the key to himself, who is Tifa. What a wild goose chase. :awesome:

In Dissidia, he's obviously not Cloud-Cloud, but confused-Cloud. He's not looking for Sephiroth, he's looking for himself. For who he is.

All of the cameos or alternate versions kind of parallel to the original universe.

AMIRITE OR AMIRITE :monster:

What did you expect? It always happens. Guys, STOP ATTACKING AND STALKING PEOPLE!

I'M NOT ATTACKING PEOPLE! :rage: Just stalking...
 
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