The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[Vendel]

All you can slick.

Now hurry up, that's your cue, start snapping!

All the snaps you can handle.

 

[Isabella]

 

[Vendel]

Sorry......

Spoiler

 

[I Am Not Me]

So this is what happens to the LTD whenever I leave for a short while.

And what is this about us bashing Cleriths? Weren't they the ones who bashed this forum first?

 

[Celes Chere]

Mei, just start dancing.

 

[I Am Not Me]

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[DrakeClawfang]

The debate is over narrative consistency and the proper way to analyze fiction.

Well that's a big debate to have, SE has always been very consistent. That reminds me, has the Nibelheim Incident been rewritten recently? Last I heard Zack and Tseng team up to fight Genesis or something....?

 

[I Am Not Me]

Well that's a big debate to have, SE has always been very consistent.

Not always. They make inconsistencies with character birthdays, heights, and stuff.

That reminds me, has the Nibelheim Incident been rewritten recently? Last I heard Zack and Tseng team up to fight Genesis or something....?

Whut? Where is this? O_O

 

[paoo]

Lying..no i'm not lying. Your Nero right? Well the leader of the anti-Cloti forums is my friend and you spied there right? Well in many posts I have said I like Cloti along with Clerith and I don't bash on Cloti as a whole just the parts I dislike. Even in one part I said what I didn't like about Clerith too. I have my likes and dislikes for both pairs. I'm not gonna go into detail about it unless it is really neccisary quite frankly. Think i'm a poser whatever, idk. Over the years i've switched from liking Cloti or Clerith more and so what if I like Clerith more no, I don't hate Cloti now or Tifa for that matter. At many times Tifa has been my favorite character. I love Tifa and I like Cloti and if you don't believe me, w/e then.

Well, you're still bashing then.
There are many topics where you can say what you don't like about the pairing, but if you don't like bashing.. and then joining a Anti-Cloti club.. Sorry, I don't get you.

And as for Celes, of course she can like Clerith. I also love Clerith, but as a fanon couple. The difference is that some people actually trying to prove Clerith as canon with all their might. But the evidence is weak..

 

[Ryushikaze]

Well that's a big debate to have, SE has always been very consistent. That reminds me, has the Nibelheim Incident been rewritten recently? Last I heard Zack and Tseng team up to fight Genesis or something....?

And yet only one version of those events currently counts.

Just like Greedo shot first, the current version being different than the old doesn't mean we can't piece together a coherent narrative from the whole.

Unless we CAN'T, and then EVERYTHING just falls apart.

 

[Celes Chere]

And as for Celes, of course she can like Clerith. I also love Clerith, but as a fanon couple. The difference is that some people actually trying to prove Clerith as canon with all their might. But the evidence is weak..

Precisely. Clerith is all fine and dandy, there is no problem with it.

I'm kind of wondering what's so wrong with Aerith being canonly with Zack. It's not like he's a bad character or anything.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Because he totally cheated on her with Cissnei. Even though the creators explicitly deny this.

 

[paoo]

Because he totally cheated on her with Cissnei. Even though the creators explicitly deny this.

And don't forget Tifa as well.
Does it make Zack a pedophile?

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah, Tifa's "I hate you" was clearly a sign that she wanted him to bone her, and he knew how to respond to it, .

 

[Ryushikaze]

Yeah, Tifa's "I hate you" was clearly a sign that she wanted him to bone her, and he knew how to respond to it, .

Don't forget AERITH picked out the ribbon, not Zack, and it was a different ribbon besides, and she was reacting to CLOUD during the ending, not Zack, and she was going to wear pink anyways, she always wore pink ribbons before Zack bought her one, and her wearing pink and the ribbon has nothing to do with her remember him and her 89th letter was telling him off even though it looks like it's longing, because impenetrable Japanese Symborism.

And let's not even get into the DoC or AU nonsense.

 

[Vendel]

Well that's a big debate to have, SE has always been very consistent. That reminds me, has the Nibelheim Incident been rewritten recently? Last I heard Zack and Tseng team up to fight Genesis or something....?

You know. It's one thing to argue over if Cloud molested Tifa's face or not. Who shot first. Or a million other little details. But no matter how you tweak things Greedo is still dead and Cloud still loves Tifa.

 

[Goodbye Charlie]

No offense, but how can you get all preachy about this? It's the 21st century, people joke about different races, gays, everything so this just fits in to the stereotyped world quite frankly. And the thing is they weren't actually going to murder the Cloti's and I hope you know that...unless someone did which is pretty fucked up over a LT. But then again people do treat this like religion so I wouldn't be too suprised.

... what?

This just knocked me off the old chair.

It's the 21st century and in this new fangled era, we accept a wonderful enlightened commentary mocking race, sexuality and anything else we can form some mild predjudice against? I wouldn't say any of such is tolerated unless such humour is used as a form of irony to knock the intolerant - for instance, DesFail mocking FF_Goddess for using vastly inappropriate and frankly disgusting allegories.

Sorry - but if you're looking to find some level ground here, trying to validate such "gags" won't make the grade. If you do your research on Nazi history you'll soon realise a) that any comparison to some of the horrendous, torturous and morally disgusting acts is grossly inappropriate in any form b) that by making light of some of the most terrifying atrocity belittles the event, pushing the truth further from away when in fact, it's an event we should struggle to remember in all its shocking aspects if we are to avoid such mistakes being repeated - and in respect of those who fought or simple suffered.

Honestly, I'm not looking to platform here, but I think this needs to be underlined as you seem oblivious -as do the people who perpetuated the comments - as to why its wrong and why people here take it so seriously. You should be looking to distance yourself from such comments, not looking to downplay them.

Understand that, and maybe we'll all find a level playing field someday. Stupid LTD Cloti/Clerith/Clack debates aside, it's one issue with SOME at those forums (obviously not all) which reminds me there are some mindsets there I could never get on with.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah, there are some lines that just shouldn't be crossed. In a "Some of my distant relatives died in Auschwitz" sort of way. Anyone who tries to pass themselves off as a Nazi in a manner that they actually express pride in either has a serious misunderstanding of history or a serious personality disorder. I refuse to believe that people can be so wilfully malevolent.

 

[Vendel]

Yeah, there are some lines that just shouldn't be crossed. In a "Some of my distant relatives died in Auschwitz" sort of way. Anyone who tries to pass themselves off as a Nazi in a manner that they actually express pride in either has a serious misunderstanding of history or a serious personality disorder. I refuse to believe that people can be so wilfully malevolent.

Clerith is a hell of a drug.


As an aside I take Nazi stuff as no joke. My Grandfather died in a concentration camp.



He fell off a guard tower.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Clerith is a hell of a drug.


As an aside I take Nazi stuff as no joke. My Grandfather died in a concentration camp.



He fell off a guard tower.

I knew that was coming

 

[A]

What the fuck?

And Nero, btw in the first posts we talked (yes we have) I actually assumined you were a sweetheart, because you seemed nice there, but is it true you insulted Sky via pm? I should get the story from both sides I guess, because atm what i've heard isn't so pretty on your part...

I won't give any sympathy to someone who harasses others and victimizes them by pointing out: "You deserve to be paralyzed because you're a bitch," or, "You guys should all burn in an oven." And it's a beautiful thing to see when you watch the same person who's trolled your forum retrieve this information from another place like this. Us insulting Sky? Yes, but only because she has said those said quotes I have put above. Another example is, "Go hang yourself." Do you want more?

Don't ever victimize others by bringing up crap that they take personally. Never.

Yes, they took that on, but I believe the idea was started in at Destiny Failed I could be wrong though.

Destiny Failed started after that club, not before. Having discussions about your Clerii pink jackboots stomping the hell out of Clotis is not only speaking of something highly taboo, but it's being awfully disrespectful. Yes, both sides poke fun at the latter sometimes, and we all get pissed off. But it's going too far when you're discussing about something regarded as one of the most depressing and humiliating times of a race that had to endure all that shit. And yet, you guys are complaining about us being the worse ones, stating that we have no respect for Clotis whatsoever...

Whilst you guys have anti threads, bashing of other members, and the bringing up of what's considered taboo. At least we're trying to keep away from that crap, unlike some I know.

Sorry, i'm messing up what you mean but isn't it worse to bash someone for liking something then bashing something you don't like. I mean you can't blame people for liking things right? That's why I don't understand why Cleriths or Clotis hate the opposing side just for not agreeing, wtf is that. I'm a neutral I don't care what you guys say I am just to clear things up, for any of you doubters.

Orite, that's why you join an anti-Cloti forum.

No offense, but how can you get all preachy about this? It's the 21st century, people joke about different races, gays, everything so this just fits in to the stereotyped world quite frankly. And the thing is they weren't actually going to murder the Cloti's and I hope you know that...unless someone did which is pretty fucked up over a LT. But then again people do treat this like religion so I wouldn't be too suprised.

Comparing yourself to a group that killed millions of people, then trying to pass it off as some joke is bullshit. There are things that should never be considered as a joke, especially this one. And believe me? You guys would be saying the exact same thing if we had started it. And what about the twenty first century? Are you saying that means you can act as if the Holocaust isn't a big deal and bringing up how pinkers will squish us with their pink boots isn't degrading? Don't stoop so low to the point where you have to bring up Nazis in your discussion kthx.

Treating this like a religion? Bah. Join a forum dedicating it's hate to a ficitional pairing, and there's nothing wrong with that.

People will always poke fun at others. But poking fun at a fictional pairing is just stupid.

Actually I think they might let her back in. Sylvia (the admin) is my friend and Dante and her made up I believe because I was rping with both of them so I assumined they were friends again. It was over some pity shipping stuff maybe, but what I heard was that Dante was sticking up for Cloti fans that made fun of Clerith fans their or something. It's a little fuzzy. >.<

You know what? Flaming a forum repeatedly, insulting the members and harassing them, victimizing them, showing off pictures of people being hanged, cut, slashed and burned is never as bad as sticking up for a Cloti. Dante is a friend of ours too. Are you stating that she has to stick up for Cleriths just because she's a Clerith fan? That's bullshit.

Yeah, so compared to people poking fun of Cleriths once in a while, I doubt that's worse than:

-People trolling a forum and posting disturbing images.
-Victimizing specific members and demeaning them by making fun of them.
-Creating anti threads, bashing a fictional pairing.
-Calling yourselves Nazi and proclaiming that the Cloti genocide will hence begin by the stomping of your pink Clerii boots.

This may be immature on my part. But at least I'm not acting as immature as some people I know.

 

[crack]

And Nero, btw in the first posts we talked (yes we have) I actually assumined you were a sweetheart, because you seemed nice there, but is it true you insulted Sky via pm? I should get the story from both sides I guess, because atm what i've heard isn't so pretty on your part...

ORITE, cause trying to start a discussion about someone destined to be crippled for the rest of their lives or bringing up the condition of someone's health is totally fucking okay.

 

[I Am Not Me]

Whoa... whoa... Calm down people.

HEAL THE WORLD, MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE
FOR YOU AND FOR ME AND THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE

Let's not be scaring people away now. We should wait for her to reply to the others instead of flooding her. M'kay?


I have to say though... all these about a fictional pairing. I fail to see how the PNs are ever going to win here because all evidence points to their nasty doing. Yeah, we're totally the evil people here. We're not victimized, oh no. I haven't seen Clotis go as far as they have yet. I've seen Strifeheart though, and it's probably the only thing that can go against Clitos at this point, but it's closed down so that's hardly anything there now. But all of these hate/anti sites from them are either open or going to open soon.

Sure we poke fun at all those Clerith arguments and bullshat, but that's because they were practically made to be made fun of. I mean, seriously, koi_bito? What? Dim love? Wacdonalds? WHAT??

It's also amazing how some people can stand staying in such sites and forums full of hate. Don't they have lives or anything? There is more to life than a fictional pairing, and yet all this hate--it's as if some Cloti killed their relatives or something.

WTH. GET A LIFE. It's not so hard to walk out of your basement and go under the sun. Get yourselves boyfriends and a job to be busy with. Not this shat. It's just a video game pairing.

Now, I'm not attacking an individual here, but I think you all know who I'm pertaining to.



Is there any way to stop this nonsense? It makes The Blue Side sad, seeing all these misguided people.

 

[A]

Let's not be scaring people away now. We should wait for her to reply to the others instead of flooding her. M'kay?

Too late.

But yeah, seriously, bringing up personal stuff isn't cool at all. People like those really, really need to get a life.

 

[Bex]

The only reason people cream themselves over SE's products is to make up for their horrific treatment of Japanese immigrants during WW2.