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Celes Chere

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Yes,
and,
I started posting there again because a friend pestered me into doing it. And then I met some other random awesome person when I started posting again. :awesome:

Can't say much for the Mods, though. >>
 

Dashell

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I'm gonna try to swing this back on topic here.

A lot of Cleriths believe the ending to Dissidia is Clerith but official sources have never confirmed that the flower field represents Aerith though flowers do generally represent her in the FFVII world. Thoughts? :monster: (I haven't played it so I can't really comment)
 

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I'm gonna try to swing this back on topic here.

A lot of Cleriths believe the ending to Dissidia is Clerith but official sources have never confirmed that the flower field represents Aerith though flowers do generally represent her in the FFVII world. Thoughts? :monster: (I haven't played it so I can't really comment)
No, because it the flowers represent Cloud's dream of a peaceful world where wildflowers can grow. Unless we have another LT coming up...

Squall/Aerith/Cloud?

Terra/Aerith/Cloud?

So many options....
 

Dashell

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Here's a related question: If symbolism represents Aerith, does it follow that it must represent Clerith?

Wow good reply... I'd say no because I firmly believe Aerith is with Zack. If anything if Aerith is nearby, it means Zack is too.
 

Isabella

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I'm willing to consider that yellow flowers are a nod to Aerith, especially in the AC credits. (Haven't played Dissidia.) But to take that and interpret it as referencing Cloud and Aerith's love, you have to already assume Cloud and Aerith are in love. Otherwise, it's just a nod to a beloved, fallen character. Just as the end of ACC is a nod to TWO beloved, fallen characters, imo. Not everything is a secret love clue.
 

Dashell

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In that case, you can replace 'love' with 'victim.' :awesome:

haha... I swear to god if anyone thanks me for that XD

Not everything is a secret love clue.
quoted FGJ, truth, and other shit. Cloud fricken sneezes and 10 people have to jump on it trying to decipher if he said "I love Tifa" or "I love Aerith"
 
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Splintered

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I'm not quite sure about the yellow flowers. I don't think anyone can completely rule out that Aerith has a connection to flowers, yellow specifically. That and the lifestream are symbolic of her.

But I also don't believe that yellow flowers represent CloudAerith. No matter how you try to look at it, neither CloudAerith and CloudTifa were strictly romantic, there was more into those relationships. Especially after her death, Aerith represented spirituality of the planet, and a general feeling that everything is going to be okay. She's usually been shown at the end of the main series of FFVII to signify the end.

I guess I saw the spiritual and calming connotations of Aerith, and not necessarily see everything as twu wuv.
 

Ryushikaze

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@Quix: The more extreme members of the CxA forums (I emphasize not all) exhibit borderline cultish behavior, imo. They won't allow dissent over "Clerith ideals," they distrust people on the "outside," etc. You won't have a lot of luck writing an essay asking them to look inward. You'll just get kicked out too.

IIRC, someone did get banned literally for doing just that. Asking them to try being more open minded.

CloudxTifa fans do it too. All pairing fandoms have this problem.

Yes, but It would seem not to be as extreme among our ranks in general. We tend to lack a centralized leader, which is quite a hindrance to being cultish.

@Splintered: I don't spend enough time around Cloti forums to know if they warn people or ban them for contradicting Cloti Ideals. I'm sure there are zealous Clotis out there, but on the whole they seem more open-minded than the Cleriths I've encountered.

AFAIK, there aren't any now that Strifeheart's dead.

Quexinos, your attempts are futile.

Unless you want FFG to post a temper tantrum rant about you, quit now. It's a really bad idea that will never work, under any circumstances.

Sorry.

That may be, but even if it doesn't convince the bigwigs, if it convinces a few of the pedestrians, it could help.

Eh, I've been in the Cloti fandom for years, and maybe if you told me that a couple of years ago I would have agreed. CloudTifa got the shit end of the stick for years. Neither pairing was in a clear majority but CloudAerith always seemed to overshadow them. A lot of the CxA fans were rude and overly obnoxious when it came to their pairing, at least it was that way early ACforums. I had people to tell me not to cry when Cloud makes out with Aerith in AC after I told them the SE will never, ever, resolve the love triangle.

C/A didn't overshadow C/T, the C/A supporters just browbeat the C/T supporters with yelling and screaming and illogical and unsupportable arguments.
Then logical people who don't take shit got involved.

Then AC comes out and I had no idea what it did but all of a sudden, Cloti fandom becomes overwhelming. At first it was kind of fun but then I saw they were doing the exact same shit CxA fans did the the CxT fans and I hauled ass out of there. I don't see how my fandom can be so much better than theirs when mine calls them a cult for sticking to their otp.

It's not sticking to an OTP that makes them cultish. It's the fandom structure and their organized hating on other pairings that threaten theirs that make them cultish.

Well it's in the past, people grow up, people change... I hope >_>

I mention this in my essay :monster:
OKAY SORRY I'LL STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!

Also, gonna beat Vendel to this one:
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Obvious troll is obvious.

Sorry, calling Poe's law- in reverse. I've seen other CxA pinkers threaten to bomb S-E if C/T ever became canon.

Yeah I saw someone get banned for saying Tifa was indeed Cloud's light in KH. Pretty sure it was a troll though.

Supporting Cloti openly in defiance of the head honchos= ban.

I'm gonna try to swing this back on topic here.

A lot of Cleriths believe the ending to Dissidia is Clerith but official sources have never confirmed that the flower field represents Aerith though flowers do generally represent her in the FFVII world. Thoughts? :monster: (I haven't played it so I can't really comment)

No. At best, it only partly represents her, sharing time with Squall's meaning of the flowerfield- for whom it appears first- and at worst, all the flowers represent are the peaceful world that Cloud decides to begin fighting for after Firi's monologue.

Here's a related question: If symbolism represents Aerith, does it follow that it must represent Clerith?

No. Just as symbolism of Zack != Clack. Just as symbolism of Kain doesn't equal Cekain (Kacil?) and OVERT boco Symbolism != Barco.
 

Dashell

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IIRC, someone did get banned literally for doing just that. Asking them to try being more open minded.
If it's the same person I'm thinking of this person did call them all pink Nazis in the middle of a flame war :monster:

That may be, but even if it doesn't convince the bigwigs, if it convinces a few of the pedestrians, it could help.
Thanks Ryu, I'll send it your way when I have more. I appreciate you taking the time to help me with it, even if I decide not to post it.

FYI I don't care if FFG writes a rant about me, in fact, I'd probably encourage it :monster:
 

Ⓐaron

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Seeing as they call themselves Pink Nazis I'm not sure how they could have reasonably taken that as much of an insult :monster:
 

Dashell

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It's just what I heard, we might not even be talking about the same person.
it's unfortunate that they've become so paranoid that they can't tell the difference between a troll and someone who's trying to help.
 
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Ⓐaron

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It's just what I heard, we might not even be talking about the same person.
Even if you aren't, that would be a silly reason for them to hold a grudge.

it's unfortunate that they've become so paranoid that they can't tell the difference between a troll and someone who's trying to help.
I don't think it's even so much that they can't tell the difference as that they're so attached to their beliefs that they don't really care whether a person is trying to help or not - if someone attack their beliefs, that person obviously not must care all that much about their emotional well-being.

I could be wrong, though - I have a difficult time imagining why anyone would ever behave that irrationally.
 
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Dashell

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I used to do that with Demyx from KH2... a few months later I attempted suicide :monster: Not saying they're suicidal but I've been there...
 

Dashell

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meh search ED and you'll find it. And now that I've completely derailed the thread, who do you think is on top in my avatar? Tifa? Zack? Aerith? Sephiroth? Mako Eyes?
 

Vendel

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Quexinos, how can they feel embarrassed when the names are purposefully left out "to protect the innocent?"


Well I tend to think of it as "protecting the stupid". But that is just my own bias I guess.


You should see some of the delicious shit I have. I think I'll save it for TNC(if they start singing a different tune). Unless it doesn't reopen then I'll throw out volumes of the stuff.
 

Dashell

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The Northern Crater. I guess it's a forum where people debate the love triangle. It's been down for some time, but I guess they're getting a new admin or something. I dunno. I don't think many people will show up either.
 
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