KH 1 was very pro Clorith
If being in the same game automatically means they are in love.
he finds the person he's looking for in the end. Aerith.
Right. So, why are Sora and co. saying Cloud looks even worse in KH2? If he found Aeris, why's he still chasin after that dude, Sephiroth? What's this light business all over again?
I mean, this is even without pulling numerous quotes that say he was looking for Sephiroth - the embodiment of his darkness, and his own light (embodied by Tifa).
Your interpretation always hits the wall of something called coherency and consistency.
I never understood what he "didn't know", he seemed unsure about accepting her light.
Do you people fucking follow the entire dialogue? Wouldn't hurt to listen to Sephiroth, he tells you what Cloud is unsure of.
For blinding white hot sex.
For the
somethign warm that he is running from (similar to AC): Tifa. Aeris who?
I can still see why some people would infer that he's looking for a person who happens to be his light.
Yes, but Tesster, zey is wrong. Btw, I don't remember thinking that. I got that he was looking for Seph to
have sex with defeat him so he could find the light inside him he lost.
Why would Cloud become an agent of the God of the Underworld and use darkness to find his
light? He was looking for Sephiroth, the embodiment of his darkness and used darkness itself to find him. Then it backfired cause Seph's dick grows in the dark and Cloud was completely fucked.
In the KH universe, at least, she's shown to be the closest person to him
Right. Aeris is close to him, but Tifa is the opposite of Sephiroth and embodiment of his light -- directly involved in the conflict between light/darkness that's central to Cloud's story in KH (in the creators' own words).
Whoever said Aeris and Cloud weren't friends? <3
I'm just sayin' it doesn't make KH Cleris
I don't see them explicitly establishing them as a couple anywhere.
In order for Cleris to be established in other games, they need only be standing within a few feet of each other. Or have their names mentioned somewhere
they are far more comfortable around each other physically.
Show me one person who shares more intimate physical contact with Cloud than Tifa, in the game and rest fo the Compilation.
Show me one person feels comfortable enough lecturing him (minus his own fucking wife/girlfriend and child) in AC.
Don't skip this. I want this answered, because it never has been. You or anyone else, I don't particularly care who.
I don't buy this whole, "SE Is just doing it not to upset our feelings",
Neither do I. They wouldn't have killed Aeris if they did despite Nomura being called a villain. It was important to the story. It was done. period.
Similarly, they have never said FFVII is inconclusive. THE ANSWERS ARE THERE, baby!
not truly official until after AC
why do you think they are a couple AFTER AC when you disagree on them being romantically involved prior to?
What makes you think they're gonna get it on post AC that didn't convince you pre-AC?
They did once, from the horse's mouth. We don't need a detailed sex schedule to infer the rest.
It's not rocket science. Let's not throw away known storytelling devices in favor of Cleris, yes? Thanks.
I think it can be assumed that he'd be comfortable with her presence.
Perched over his bed like a fuckin gargoyle?
We never get Cloud's perspective on the matter, do we?
Yes sir, we do! He agrees! Unless Tifa imagined every dialogue taking place in CoT and she's actually a schizo.
CoT implies this is the beginning of a relationship
How is Tifa left behind by a man she was never in a relationship with to begin with?
Let's answer this question first before we move on.
Ask the creators why they chose to have Aerith die and Cloud bury her in fully rendered animation, whereas Tifa and Cloud falling into the lifestream looks... terrible.
Lonewolf, you GUT ME.
Seriazly. Here you go, groundbreaking moment where main female character croaks forevah, nevah to be brought back by them damn PDs, and you ask why render that fully? Yes, it was fully rendered all pretty and such to show the great love between them.
Like Shirtless Sephiroth. Clephiroth wins.
Cloud gets the Momma vibe off Aerith, not Tifa
As does his VA, apparently. LOL
I'm saying it's not as important as Aerith's death sequence
....which proves Cloud loved Aeris how? Why did they also choose to fully render a naked Sephiroth? I don't know, you tell me.
Well, ok I lied. I know.
I meant he's not taking his calls. Why wouldn't he answer his phone if he'd left for the sole purpose of saving Denzel?
He didn't leave for the sole purpose of saving the little fucker. He also left cause he felt useless and such. You know, being afraid of failure's been his thing, his achilles heel so to
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He is afraid of this happiness, null. Afraid of it because it is so blinding white, like those fuckin flashes that clingy bitch ho threw his way.
Cloud finds Denzel > Cloud decides to look for a cure while living with Denzel > Cloud eventually gets Geostigma and buggers off
you forgot the nagging.
It's very cute, to say the least.
I don't think it's that hard. SE agrees with us as well, what with the Ultimania and all. 
