Okay, so first of all, I want to make one thing clear: Rena, I am not trying to attack you personally, especially over a shipping preference. I realize you're getting worked up and I apologize if what I've said has gotten under your skin. Now, besides my better judgement, I'm going to reply to you and I will be as understanding as possible.
Why can’t I say she’s clingy? That’s seriously, honestly how I see her…oh! And pretty much of a martyr too. But ok, I get it…you love her and your asking me to respect her character and not say rude comments about her. Ok, I can do that.
I'm going to bold that part because you continue to bash her in the same post. You sort of missed my point so I'm going to try again.
There are a few people here who dislike Aerith's character for a number of reasons. But there are also many people here who like her, including myself. Those few people refrain from bashing her and providing their opinions as justifiable reasons to why they dislike her. Why? Because they have respect for the people who do like her and see it as pointless to discuss their dislike in regards to a character when it is simply not necessary. Especially in a debate regarding canon, not opinion.
I think Splintered said this very accurately, so I'm going to quote her on it:
Splintered said:
But here's the reality of what you did and the problem with 99% of the LTD: the passive aggressive swipes at the other character as if it would someone illegitimate relationship between two characters. It's the lowest common denominator in any shipping debate and quite frankly, it's just plain annoying.
Did I EVER say you do?!
OMG! Venting people in another forum?! Now you’re gonna tell me Cloti’s are saints and never ever say anything wrong about random Cleriths…once again I never said YOU.
You generalized so in a way, yeah you kind of did:
Rena said:
I may be now, yes ‘cause most of you seem to take things quiet personal when you don’t like what you read and you DO get personal, bless my heart it does cause a reaction, however it’s funny how it is always the other side the ones been childish and never the other way round.
If you'd like to retract that comment or clear it up, I will gladly let it go. But you did generalize and seeing as how I fall under the 'other side' notion, you were discussing me as well.
Also, I never said all Clotis were saints; I believe I said it was even on both sides, meaning cray crays everywhere, including cloti. But you have a point; I shouldn't have brought that up and I can admit that it was wrong. I was trying to prove a point the only way I knew how, but it still doesn't make it correct. I apologize.
I don’t want to expose stupid arguments…it will offend the people who post them .
Not if their argument is actually stupid, you won't. I gave you an example of what a stupid argument is. I have called it out on people. The argument is rarely ever seen these days because it's generally conceded that Aerith nor Tifa are like 'mothers' to Cloud. So if the argument is actually stupid, you have every valid reason to point it out and, as a matter of fact, I would like to think you would in a debate.
Honey! Read carefully! I NEVER said it is only Clotis the ones being childish…why is it always about generalization?! Not everything on life is Black or white and there’s wrong and good everywhere. Not only one side or the other.
I can read fine. Being a fourth year university student and riding through scholarships sort of requires highly regarded reading skills, I can assure you. And I'll quote it again so that you can see why I saw it the way I did. Now, if that's not how you meant it, then I'll gladly await you clearing it up but as it stands, it is still a generalization and an insult.
Rena said:
I may be now, yes ‘cause most of you seem to take things quiet personal when you don’t like what you read and you DO get personal, bless my heart it does cause a reaction, however it’s funny how it is always the other side the ones been childish and never the other way round.
So saying that both sides have batshit insane rabids is an extreme? I'm sure you've met many cray cray clotis and I can attest to the fact that I've met many cray cray cleriths AND clotis. I've also had the pleasure to meet fantastic people on BOTH sides. Many of them come to this forum.
I wasn’t being passive-aggressive. I was blantly aggressive towards Tifa character.
That's fine and dandy, but being aggressive towards Tifa's character in an LTD thread is rather pointless seeing as how it proves next to nothing but the fact that you genuinely dislike her.
That's all I'm saying on this drama because if this keeps up, the Mods will ban me and this is so not worth being banned for.
Feel free to PM or VM me, Rena, if you still have a problem.