Lot of bits here from the last almost week...
Confirmed in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link. It's implied they kiss when the curtain falls at the end of the game.
Who is a different Zelda than the Zelda 1 Zelda, though it's the same Link. These are also the three times (2 SS and BOTW/TOTK) L and Z are unambiguously romantic. They even went so far as to give the fandom's favorite alternate a wife in TOTK.
Latest take is that CT fans wanted Tifa to die so that Cloud would be broken up about her. Do some of these people truly think that Aerith dying is romantic? That just shows they have 0% awareness of the actual world around them. Death is not romantic. Have they ever experienced someone close to them dying? Make it make sense please.
No one who either ships C/T or simply sees it as the natural canon wants Tifa to die. What the fuck?
Reminds me of how one of the biggest CA fans actually admitted she hates Aerith but she hates Tifa more lmaoooooo
Who was this?
Ya me neither cause FF doesn't really do it but they did give Luna and Noctis kids in some random novel w/ the laziest character designs I've ever seen in my entire life lmaoooo
The best part of that artwork is that it's actually Ardyn Izunia imagining a future where he can be the doting great great great etc. uncle to those kids.
Question:
I've seen the word "nakama" being thrown around again ... does Cloud say that in Japanese or does the scene have 2 routes and he only says it in one? I can't find like a low affection version of the scene online.
Also can someone whose been following the LT since wayway waaaay back, wasn't it a lot more Clerithy early on? I just read something about "Clotis controlling the internet since 1997" and I don't think that's accurate.
Clerith came out swinging hard in 97. Not to say there was nothing but that, but they were extremely aggressive in being pro C/A and very anti Tifa. It's why a LOT of the early LTD was as vitriolic as it was. You had to stand your fucking ground to make headway.
That's a big fat lie, but accurate to Clerith's modus operandi of painting themselves as victims.
There was literally no Cloti material in the internet until Squall_of_SeeD published his famous LTD Analysis in this very forum. Previous to 2009, if you looked up anything related to Cloud and Tifa's relationship, you would only find Clerith's fansites tearing it down and dragging Tifa through the mud. I know because I remember a friend of mine wanting to write a fanfiction that featured Cloud and Tifa prominently, and wanted to base it on canon... but she couldn't find anything on the internet about it, so she enlisted my help. I couldn't find anything either.
Then Squall_of_Seed came along and all hell broke lose. Cleriths entered a panic state you can see them still being in until now. Every single propaganda tactic they are using now was developed back them to control the "damage" that article inflicted on their ship, and they have made it into an art over the years, thanks to gems like the Clerith Bible and 50 Reasons to ship Clerith. All their talking points are there, and are just actualized to fit new info/games.
These forum have been villainaized to high heaven in their bubble too, that's why you don't find many Cleriths here. This place is evil and poisonous for them, full of misinformation and vile people that only want to humiliate them.
Absolutely not unexpected that they are trying to rewrite history to fit their narrative. It IS what they do.
Hey now. There was some shit. Mostly other translations here on TLS. But yeah, there were oodles of gish gallop re: Clerith way back when.
One thing I like about the way the LTD is being portrayed is that Tifa isn't threatened by CA's dynamic. Other than her confused "huh?" in Kalm, Tifa does not care if she sees CA hanging out and going on a date--this is especially true in GS when they bump into her if you got Aerith the first time.
This is in direct contrast to Aerith who does get jealous and a bit petty if she sees Cloud and Tifa spending time alone together at GS. This seems like meta commentary since the fans always assumed Tifa was the jealous one (and in the OG I'd argue she was definitely portrayed to be jealous) but now it's like rain off her back.
I think this is a good change bc when CT is endgame, no one can ever say Tifa was a second choice and that she was jealous of Aerith from the start. It would be the opposite for CA, as Aerith is a bit resentful of CTs friendship (by her own admission).
Where was she? I looked for her but didn't see her in Ch8.
they were paid to be neutral
If I don't survive, tell my wife... hello.
I feel Eyes On Me is also about Laguna and Raine. I am such a sucker for those two even with their limited screen time.
Literally, textually, it is. She writes it about Laguna watching her play the piano in the bar.
I'm not saying Aerith doesn't have feelings for Cloud, she clearly does, but rather than go all out to "get him" I feel she's still trying to figure things out. An understandable reaction given the two only met for the first time a few weeks earlier.
Like, two weeks. Remember that Remake is literally three ish days of time.
I was talking with my wife about this earlier how from the original clip, the woman walking down the street was angry because it seemed that despite what she thought the two people were in fact just roommates, and yet the clip and phrase has literally become internet shorthand for the exact opposite.
2) Tifa knows Cloud’s recollection is wrong. But she’s also worried it might be degradation. She wants to be the one to tell Aerith because she can tell her that Cloud is starting to remember while also making sure Cloud doesn’t tell a false memory.
This is a bit pedantic but it is important. She is worried partly because Cloud's recollection is scarily CORRECT. It's wrong in that he's there (as far as she knows) but he's giving her the correct lines and correct actions from the man that WAS there. It is a bit odd she never takes a stab at guessing the real answer, but that's partly because ironically she believes in him such that she thinks he actually did get into SOLDIER and wasn't just an infrantryman.
The people that used to use Cait Sith as evidence for Clerith also now have to contend with that Yuffie bit.
They also have to contend with Cait too, since he was trying to peep as well.
Honestly, AC needs a re-write cause Cloud was perfectly happy and fine for 2 years until he gets alien cancer and is forced to look at his own mortality lmao which.... while realistic is also a little callous of him. He was like "Look, the world is saved, I'm with my girl and we're rebuilding our lives together. Life is SO GOOD." .... then he gets sick and is like "....Wait hold on."
Yes, that too. Ultimately, his depression comes from a super selfish place which is why I like him bc he's heavily flawed BUT it does reflect poorly on him a little.
It's not selfish, since he is doing what he does out of a warped sense of duty and guilt, but I agree it's fucked up.
To elaborate, he takes the illness as a sign that he did not deserve his happiness, that he must atone. That's when Denzel gets it and he starts going mad for a cure. Then he gets it too and his guilt over the fact that he was happy hits even harder so he stays away because "I do not deserve good things, I must earn them" combined with "I bring them misfortune."
AC does a shit job of conveying this. ACC is a little better but you absolutely needed to do a lot of homework to get the full picture.
