Misterbadguy
Phantom Lord
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- METEODRIVE
That CG sequence of Reactor 1 exploding is gonna be DOPE.
FFVII REMAKE CONFIRMED
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Jairus
Author of FFVII: Lifestream & FFVII: Reflections
We don't know that he'll arrive at the same time and place as in the original, though. They may adjust things to bring him in earlier and thus, give him more time in the game. And he is one of the FFVII story's main cast, so he is expected to be a part of it. And in the original, Aerith was absent for half the Midgar segment herself, so for just that part of the game she didn't get much more time than Red did.
Roger
He/him
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- Minato
The wallmarket is a setpiece to lends itself much better to taking your time with then the boss rush that constitutes Red's entire time in the party. And yeah, Red's part of it. I just dunno why it needs to be empathesised twice that he is a main playable character, there are no playable character of comparatively lesser prominence to speak off. If he gets in the game much earlier the great but if we're asssuming that already, what's the problem?
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
Just thinking about everything that must be going on in his head at the moment does my own head in.
youffie
Pro Adventurer
Just thinking of when the game is going to strip it all away from him is making me salivate
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ForceStealer
Double Growth
It was the best part of Advent Children, too 
Cannon_Fodder
Pro Adventurer
I like how Cloud's Cross Slash is in time with the music. It just feels like whoever made that trailer was having fun with it.
Jairus
Author of FFVII: Lifestream & FFVII: Reflections
As I said, they may adjust things to bring Red in earlier than that. We don't know yet. And I was emphasizing his status as a main playable character because you seem to imply he isn't, despite the fact that he was just as fully playable as any of the others and likely will be in the remake as well. I'm sure SE knows people weren't happy about how he was treated in the Compilation, so I'm hoping they rectify that here. One way they could bring Red in earlier is to shift the location of the lab where you meet him from the Shinra Building to another site somewhere in the city, one that you would visit sometime prior to Aerith's rescue but likely after the plate collapse, perhaps as a way of finding a way into Shinra HQ itself.
Rather than just strolling up to the building like in the original, maybe we'll have to visit other Shinra locations first to find a means of disabling the security systems and getting to the upper floors or something, and the lab with Red in it could be in one such location. That would likely remove Hojo's breeding experiment with Aerith, though, unless he has her whisked away while you're fighting H0512 and before you can save her. He does get away during that fight in the original, so having him take Aerith with him while we're occupied with the battle could work, I think.
ultima espio
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Misterbadguy
Phantom Lord
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- METEODRIVE
It's an excellently edited trailer overall. My second favourite to the SoP one.
Roger
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- Minato
Who were the non-main, playable characters of FFVII's Midgar section if Red XIII, Barret, Aerith, TIfa and Cloud should each be considered equal. I think that's just all playable characters. And yes, we COULD bring Red forward without destroying the narrative too much. I never hear why tho. Sure won't help Red's story.
Jairus
Author of FFVII: Lifestream & FFVII: Reflections
You don't know that it would damage his story because you don't know how they'd do it or what they'd add to it. One shouldn't make assumptions about things one doesn't have all the information for. You know what they say about assuming and what it does. And the reason to bring him forward would be to make him more a part of this first game, give us more time with him, expand his story, and give him the chance to become as strong and developed, gameplay-wise, as the other characters. And how is any fully playable character not main? Each one of the playable cast, even those who won't be in Part 1, have their own significance and story, Red included, which the remake is bound to expand upon.
OdaDaimyO
Conqueror of Sugar
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- Mochi Lover
I am sitting in the "waiting-with-Nanaki's-announcement-until-the-player-sees-him-in-the-actual-game camp", but how I know SE, they will spoil the surprise for new players anyway... so you can be sure we'll see him at Jump Festa with his own character focused trailer. Mark my words!
Gameplay-wise, I see him as playable character, but without customizing his equipment or skills.
Gameplay-wise, I see him as playable character, but without customizing his equipment or skills.
Cannon_Fodder
Pro Adventurer
Agreed. My only complaint is that they do the "suddenly stop the music for dramatic effect" trick three times in such a short trailer (four if you count the music stopping at the end). It's a good trick, but that's a bit excessive to me.
Roger
He/him
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- Minato
They're not main playable character in the same way they they aren't fully playable because there are no non-main, partially playable characters this distinquishes them from. There are just playable characters. And you don't know that they can bring him forward without avoiding any of that either. Or whether leaving him for Part 2 might enhance his story. Or maybe they are leaving where he is and they haven't shown him yet just because they haven't shown anything from his section of the game at all to begin with and there's no reason to assume this means they aren't giving him the treatment they deserve. Given that any amount of speculation is equal to assuming.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
I'm just glad they kept doing it because it allowed us to very clearly hear the lines and the performances.
Jairus
Author of FFVII: Lifestream & FFVII: Reflections
Red is a fully playable character in the original and will likely be in the Remake as well. I was talking about him and the rest of the original playable cast, not the trio. And again, you don't know that they can't bring him forward while preserving and enhancing his story, either. Everyone knows he first appears in Midgar, and SE knows it, too. I doubt they'll push him to Part 2 when they know he does have a part in the Midgar story, one that is possible to expand to give us more time with him and him more story and development. And we know there are story changes, of which the watchmen are likely to be but one out of many. And if you don't think we should be speculating, then don't do it yourself. I was merely commenting on what was possible, not what was certain.
Ite
Save your valediction (she/her)
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- Ite
What I love about this trailer is that it was marketed with the question “Who is Cloud Strife” and then the trailer shows a Cloud who is a complete fabrication — if you don’t know, he just looks awesome. If you DO know, you can see all the cracks in the veneer. It’s just unreal how much they are nailing it with him, and how successfully they are marketing this game to new players.
Roger
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- Minato
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If you feel that way, then don't say others are making assumptions and further imply making asses of themselves for replying to your speculative comments with their own thoughts on the subject.
Yes, they can change Red's introduction and have it not have negative impact on things. They could also screw up. They could have also scrapped the bombing missions and introduced everyone else in entirely, yet equally rich in characterisation and adventure. Instead we still start with Cloud and Barret on bombing mission where Cloud meets Aerith afterwards when they are seperated and so on. From what we've seen they'll still do their best to deliver the same major character beats from the original.
Having Red attack the Shinra Tower with Cloud, Tifa and Barret instead of joining Avalanche because they are actively helping him escape it would be pretty big, instead of deciding to stick with the crew until he gets home because he finds the story Cloud tells fascinating, he throws everything on the line from day one with no goal beyond helping. This would be a retooling of his character from the ground up. Not saying this would be BAD but it doesn't strike me as how SE would handle it. Just because the Compilation didn't feature Red doesn't mean the Remake should feel obligated to work twice as hard to make up for it. Red's role in the OG FFVII and his intro in that game wasn't bad, nor a problem that the Remake should be taking itself to task to fix.
Kain424
Old Man in the Room
Yes! Exactly! Their marketing team is doing a top-notch job. From everything they've shown, it appears we'll be very happy. I think, some Unreal Engine issues aside, the only thing I've seen that gives me pause is the addition of the Guardians of Fate.