@Mr. Ite
What part of your post on page 17 do you feel I didn't understand correctly?
Sorry for drawing this back off track, but I want to hammer this out to ensure we understand each other, it's important (if admittedly rather off track for this thread).
I don’t think it’s off track, I’ll echo what others have said in regards to my general counter-counter-criticism:
What we have is a 2 minute short film that tells its own story; that
is FF16, for now, and I think it should be looked at for its own merit and not just as a portent. I’m going to be annoying and call it a “short film” for the rest of this post because I really mean it when I say we should divorce what we’ve seen from what will eventually be a game that may/may not include what we’ve seen. Square was telling us something here with every frame, sound, and word. Looking at what we’ve been given isn’t prematurely damning or praising a future game, we can’t do that until we’ve played it. But we’ve seen this short film, we have been given lots. Editing is everything, and if this is the stuff they’re putting forward, the stuff they’re
soliciting us with, then I’m of the mind that we should absolutely scrutinize it. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have shown us anything, would they?
In regards to your question, I admit I was a bit defensive in replying to your post. I took from your wording ("if you're going to be someone that calls out sexism in other people's works that you're not holding your own to the same standards") an implication that I was on some high horse, and not scrutinizing my own stuff, when my intention was to do the exact opposite. Of course, unlike the writers of FFXVI, I’m present in the conversation to provide extra context when needed, so it still isn’t quite an even playing field. With regards to
Joshua and the No Good Very Bad Day I’m still some outsider analyzing someone else’s art and guessing at their intentions. But, so what? Ya put something out there, it’s gonna get looked at. It’s the same whether it’s graffiti, a tweet, stand-up comedy, or your friends at the D&D table. It matters to me that we have this conversation with whatever’s out there, I think you feel the same.
That’s why I brought up my elf thing, and I took heart seeing everyone’s replies. You and
@Odysseus brought up men as the expendable gender, which I think is a great point, and
@LicoriceAllsorts brought up the biological factor (which I interpret as: in real life, 100% of fathers can die in the months between conception and childbirth and the species will still propogate, and 0% of mothers can).
@Makoeyes987 also talked about what it means to tell a story 'in public' versus with friends. I love this community because we're all thoughtful and debate in good faith. And no one was afraid to tell me that what I did was sexist, and I wasn't afraid to hear it, because my goal is to be
less sexist, and discovering my blindspots is a victory. That's why I brought it up.
