Final Fantasy XVI
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LNK
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I really believe these kinds of people don't care about the content of what they put out. They just want the clicks
Wol
None Shall Remember Those Who Do Not Fight
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If you want to play just for the story, there's a free trial going on. I've always renewed my subscription to enjoy the main content then backed off to wait for the next update, repeat. Doing like this you will be paying 4 months a year (12 bucks/m) + expansions every 2 years. It's not much, especially considering the amount of content provided.
Clement Rage
Pro Adventurer
I imagine things went something like this:
"Write fifteen articles today or you're fired"
"But sir, we have no meaningful details to analyse..."
"You heard me. And make it controversial."
Sadly, I haven't found a way to make people pay me for analysis yet.
Edit: Also, I'm interested in this Malboro game
"Write fifteen articles today or you're fired"
"But sir, we have no meaningful details to analyse..."
"You heard me. And make it controversial."
Sadly, I haven't found a way to make people pay me for analysis yet.
Edit: Also, I'm interested in this Malboro game
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Fade
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As someone somewhat immersed in the world of online content on a professional level, I can confirm that the term "clickbait" is absolutely literal. The bulk of all content written online isn't intended to inform, but to create content for content's sake with the intention of ranking on Google (a process called Search Engine Optimisation, or SEO). Many, many writers have next to no knowledge on the topic they write about; they'll simply echo the first three Google results from their "research". If you're looking for value in anything written by a non-authoritative source, you're gonna be disappointed. In fact, a lot of sites don't even write their own content--they'll white-label it from outsourced writers, publishing it under their own brand.
By the way, it's for this reason that you should never take advice from a random article you find online in response to a Google search. If it's from a site with no real authority, it's worthless and was probably knocked together in an hour by an underpaid writer for the sake of SEO.
So there you go, bit of an insider's perspective, for you.
By the way, it's for this reason that you should never take advice from a random article you find online in response to a Google search. If it's from a site with no real authority, it's worthless and was probably knocked together in an hour by an underpaid writer for the sake of SEO.
So there you go, bit of an insider's perspective, for you.
Glaurung
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I still remember one analysis of Dirge of Cerberus game, way back in 2006, wich started with the sentence: "Let's start by saying that I hate Final Fantasy."
That was the moment I realized how realiable online videogame journalism could be sometimes
That was the moment I realized how realiable online videogame journalism could be sometimes
Strangelove
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thank you all for coming to the wedding of my son and his beautiful bride, it has been such a wonderful day
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from the day i first laid eyes on him on that ultrasound image, my son has been a terrible blight upon my life who has filled me with disgust every waking moment since and even in my dreams i find no reprieve
Wol
None Shall Remember Those Who Do Not Fight
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Tetsujin
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Strangelove
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honestly the best thing square can do for themselves is keep their mouths shut about what they’re working on
then you don’t end up with public 10 year+ development cycles
then you don’t end up with public 10 year+ development cycles
ForceStealer
Double Growth
Announcing VIIR in 2015 probably wouldn't have been a mistake if they didn't then completely change development teams a few months later, though. Similarly, XVI could be in great shape right now - until they decide to change engines in December
Makoeyes987
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Considering those specific and highly unusual circumstances, I doubt that'll happen again.
This is developed in-house and they've grown out of using experimental proprietary engines. Jason also doesn't talk out of his ass. He's reliable. So it's more than likely we will be getting XVI far sooner than expected. Which means the XIV team has been developing this title all while simultaneously developing XIV's expansions.
That's incredible.
This is developed in-house and they've grown out of using experimental proprietary engines. Jason also doesn't talk out of his ass. He's reliable. So it's more than likely we will be getting XVI far sooner than expected. Which means the XIV team has been developing this title all while simultaneously developing XIV's expansions.
That's incredible.
Makoeyes987
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Dunno if it'd be that soon. Maybe 1 year. Or a little more? Don't want to be too optimistic but it should be coming in a reasonable time frame. Definitely not another 4 years.
But 4 years knocked out already is incredible. That much of a head start is quite a chunk of development time... Square's been busy as fuck.
But 4 years knocked out already is incredible. That much of a head start is quite a chunk of development time... Square's been busy as fuck.
Wol
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I mean it looks to be in a way better state than VIIR did in its first showing, and it didn't rely on target render setpieces and CGs like FFXIII/FFXV, you can already hear English voices as well. The combat doesn't look janky.
It was in development for a while and it shows.
It was in development for a while and it shows.
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Strangelove
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by “public development cycle” i meant the period where they have announced development but not yet released it, i still expect square to take 10 years to actually make things
(i didn’t know the best way to phrase it and i needed to catch my bus so i just posted what i had)
Odysseus
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by “public development cycle” i meant the period where they have announced development but not yet released it, i still expect square to take 10 years to actually make things
(i didn’t know the best way to phrase it and i needed to catch my bus so i just posted what i had)
I got what you meant, I was agreeing with you lol. They should stop going public until things are farther along.
Clement Rage
Pro Adventurer
Wasn't FF7R announced early because of a leak, though?
Obsidian Fire
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The FFXIV community has known for the past... one and a half to two years that Yoshida was producing something (but not directing it) that the rest of Creative Devision III was working on. What that was... no one knew. Now we know it's FFXVI. I can absolutely believe they've been working on it the game for four years if you include all the concept work that would go into making what is essentially a brand new IP in terms of world-building, characters, story, etc.
To give people some idea as to how "soon" things come out after Yoshids's division announces them... For Shadowbringers, the first fanfest was in mid November and dropped the first half of the CGI trailer, the name of the expansion and the general basic info about it including what two of the zones looked like in-game. The second fanfest was in early Febuary and dropped a slightly extended CGI trailer, more job info, more zone info and a lot of plot info. The third fanfest was in later March and revealed the entire CGI trailer, all the jobs, all the races and even more story details. The actual expansion released in late June.
So that's... seven months from when we first found out about the expansion to when it released. And yeah, that's for a game that is already out. But before that first fan-fest, there's honestly nothing indicating that an expansion is coming, let alone what it's called. The players kinda just assume it's coming because that is what has happened for the last six years and because Yoshida has mentioned that there will be a 6.0 patch series (and what plot it'll be wrapping up).
Given how far along the trailer for FFXVI is (all graphics are cutscenes or combat from the game, the VAs are from the game, etc.), FFXVI is really close to being done. While it's going to be more than seven months until it launches, it's not that hard to see the game being out a little over a year from now. Certainly two years from now it'll be out.
We even know when the next info on FFXVI is coming out: early 2021. So it's not even the situation where we have a game coming out eventually, but we have no idea when our next info dump will be. I wouldn't be surprised if the FFXVI dev team has a schedule of when all the info dumps for FFXVI will be until the launch of the game at this point. The FFXIV community had the timing on FFXIV info dumps (and patches!) all plotted out (until Covid hit) because that team kept to their release schedule like glue. And the amount of overlap between the FFXIV and FFXVI teams is staggering, so I wouldn't be surprised they're doing something similar.
To give people some idea as to how "soon" things come out after Yoshids's division announces them... For Shadowbringers, the first fanfest was in mid November and dropped the first half of the CGI trailer, the name of the expansion and the general basic info about it including what two of the zones looked like in-game. The second fanfest was in early Febuary and dropped a slightly extended CGI trailer, more job info, more zone info and a lot of plot info. The third fanfest was in later March and revealed the entire CGI trailer, all the jobs, all the races and even more story details. The actual expansion released in late June.
So that's... seven months from when we first found out about the expansion to when it released. And yeah, that's for a game that is already out. But before that first fan-fest, there's honestly nothing indicating that an expansion is coming, let alone what it's called. The players kinda just assume it's coming because that is what has happened for the last six years and because Yoshida has mentioned that there will be a 6.0 patch series (and what plot it'll be wrapping up).
Given how far along the trailer for FFXVI is (all graphics are cutscenes or combat from the game, the VAs are from the game, etc.), FFXVI is really close to being done. While it's going to be more than seven months until it launches, it's not that hard to see the game being out a little over a year from now. Certainly two years from now it'll be out.
We even know when the next info on FFXVI is coming out: early 2021. So it's not even the situation where we have a game coming out eventually, but we have no idea when our next info dump will be. I wouldn't be surprised if the FFXVI dev team has a schedule of when all the info dumps for FFXVI will be until the launch of the game at this point. The FFXIV community had the timing on FFXIV info dumps (and patches!) all plotted out (until Covid hit) because that team kept to their release schedule like glue. And the amount of overlap between the FFXIV and FFXVI teams is staggering, so I wouldn't be surprised they're doing something similar.
looneymoon
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DMC5 probably went gold almost ~2 years from now, which is probably around the time when Ryoto Suzuki would have joined the project. I wonder how much was worked on before then, and how much of this "4 years in-development" number is including full production vs pre-production.
I'm gonna hazard a guess and say holidays 2021, or in the early months of 2022. I'm not sure how worth it is mentioning "sooner than expected" if we're getting into the 2-year territory and beyond.
That all said, the more I hear about this game, the more I'm feeling optimistic about it.
I'm gonna hazard a guess and say holidays 2021, or in the early months of 2022. I'm not sure how worth it is mentioning "sooner than expected" if we're getting into the 2-year territory and beyond.
That all said, the more I hear about this game, the more I'm feeling optimistic about it.