Some of the more extreme shippers insist that the lifestream sequence proves that Tifa was a bully to Cloud and purposefully excluded him socially when they were kids....
Staring into the middle distance as he plots...I'm convinced Nojima lurks on FFVII forums and got fed up with what he was reading.
- "Tifa was only in love with Fake Cloud"
- "Tifa doesn't have a story apart from Cloud"
- "Cloud's feelings were always platonic"
- "Tifa used to bully Clo-" You know what, I have several book ideas now
Its actually crazy how much of that stuff is straight up just disproven in the most unsubtle waysI'm convinced Nojima lurks on FFVII forums and got fed up with what he was reading.
- "Tifa was only in love with Fake Cloud"
- "Tifa doesn't have a story apart from Cloud"
- "Cloud's feelings were always platonic"
- "Tifa used to bully Clo-" You know what, I have several book ideas now
How are they coming to this conclusion? But fine, assuming that’s the case… how do they square away that Cloud joined SOLDIER for Tifa. That he protected her in disguise, and basically fulfilled the promise he made to her?Some of the more extreme shippers insist that the lifestream sequence proves that Tifa was a bully to Cloud and purposefully excluded him socially when they were kids....
They say he lost feelings once he met Aerith im not kidding
Well, too be fair, there was a localization/translation issue in the very first incarnation of OG. When he's talking about her friend group in the Lifestream, the initial translation (I can't find the screens, sorry) says something like "I wanted to play, but you wouldn't let me join." Which apparently was a mistranslation that was later rectified in the ports. My memory fails me but I think they changed it to something like the other kids wouldn't let him in, not specifically Tifa.
it seems remake is changing that from OG even with the solider persona, he very much is into Tifa
Do those shippers not check the transcripts though? You’d think making sure to research all aspects of the dialogue they need to provide evidence would be a must if they wish to downplay Cloud’s past with Tifa.
They obsessively (selectively) check the transcripts
They pick or choose what translations they want to use and which language
I'm convinced Nojima lurks on FFVII forums and got fed up with what he was reading.
- "Tifa was only in love with Fake Cloud"
- "Tifa doesn't have a story apart from Cloud"
- "Cloud's feelings were always platonic"
- "Tifa used to bully Clo-" You know what, I have several book ideas now
Yeah that's one part I really like about remake as a whole and in Rebirth. its very interesting
yeah they use that a lot, like that previous dude made an essay about
I’ve always saw it as “the obvious love interest is not the actual one”. Especially with how they build it up and even have Cait Sith affirm it with his fortune telling. It’s there almost as a red herring imo.They obsessively (selectively) check the transcripts
I honestly think they may have gone a bit to far with this. Its one thing i dont agree with even if they did end The LTD with it
No they use that as evidence the fortune
The problem is the fortune itself. Cait Sith says (paraphrasing because it’s been so long), that Aerith and Cloud are compatible and poor Tifa.
I think it’s a good decision to end the LTD, especially now that we have gaps between installments and there needs to be more of a setup for what will eventually happen later. Better to end it so they can show the scenes they want without constantly having to make it as ambiguous as possible,
The 'Cloud is just a cad' cope is not ideal lmao
Hmm... I'm not sure. I'm inclined to agree somewhat, but I do think the original did want to frame Cloud x Aerith as a tragic couple that never was. I do think that he had feelings for her in the early portion of the game, albeit ones that were a bit confused and jumbled due to his messed up mental state and identity crisis (which also spilled over into Aerith's perception of him).