GamerSkull
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Sometimes I look at characters like Cid and Auron and I still can’t believe they’re supposed to be mid-30s.
Like c’mon… Japan must hate the the 30s.
SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke
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Like c’mon… Japan must hate the the 30s.
Eerie
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I really think that Aerith calling a date the discover of the clock tower in Kalm was really a warning for Cloud and had him to keep a certain distance with her for quite some time after this, in fear she'd do it again tbh. Seeing that look on his face was kinda hilarious though xD But yeah it's like he makes sure to keep a certain distance, asking her to not take their "date" at CdS as a romantic one since it's just a job to him, etc.
Cloud, at his core, wants Tifa's approbation and he certainly doesn't want to get caught in that situation again, IMHO. He suspects they talk a lot to each other (see the boat) but Tifa is clearly the goal to him. For Aerith though, dates aren't that serious I feel so yeah.
As for Aerith, I thought of that mini arc with her integrating really the group and being able to read their joke with the 2K gils: she fails at the entry of the mythril mines, then Barret cracks it at Cloud and she's able to crack it at Barret. I was like "ohhh that's why" while replaying, although it put Cloud in a difficult position once again ^^'
Cloud, at his core, wants Tifa's approbation and he certainly doesn't want to get caught in that situation again, IMHO. He suspects they talk a lot to each other (see the boat) but Tifa is clearly the goal to him. For Aerith though, dates aren't that serious I feel so yeah.
As for Aerith, I thought of that mini arc with her integrating really the group and being able to read their joke with the 2K gils: she fails at the entry of the mythril mines, then Barret cracks it at Cloud and she's able to crack it at Barret. I was like "ohhh that's why" while replaying, although it put Cloud in a difficult position once again ^^'
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Jane Fane
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Definitely. I've contemplated this before, the how or why a certain thing from my childhood (a book, a movie, or yes, even a ship) has either stayed with me just as strongly into adulthood, or has retreated as a fond memory. With Cloud and Tifa, I love their story now even more than my 11-year-old self did, and my appreciation for them continues to evolve and take on new meaning as time goes by. As a teenager I was writing multi-chapter Selphie and Irvine fanfics (and I do still like them of course) but 20+ years on, I'm deep-diving into the psyches and complexities of Cloti and no one else.
Something about these two just stood my personal test of time.Time also gave me an appreciation for Aerith, I must say. I was not a fan during OG but AC turned that around.
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The conclusion I have come to after analyzing all the evidence is that Aerith literally does not understand the word date in the same context as everyone else. She thinks it means "A fun outing with someone you like" and does not get that it has attached weight and meaning.
This reminded me of my newest entry on my list of dumbest things I hear in the LTD debate:
"Clerith is Canon because Aerith had more dates".
I just can't even.
Something I haven't really heard people mention yet.
The name of this main scenario, "where she belongs".
Do we think this refers to "with the living" or "with Cloud"?
The term "where she belongs" bring up memories of quotes we've heard about Tifa and Cloud being "where they belong" as well as quotes concerning the promised land.
~Nojima, Reunion Files, page 70
– 10th anniversary ultimania Page 131, Revised Edition
This might be coincidence, homage, or direct reference, what do we think?
GamerSkull
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Cloud is Tifa’s Promised Land.
But honestly, it might actually mean both.
Yeah, she also refers to her and Tifa running around Costa del Sol as a date.
nars305
🎵 I am so, so bored 🎶
They also teased us so hard because the next time they have alone time (if I remember correctly) is in Gongaga after Tifa recovers. And it’s crazy how close Cloud is to realizing what’s actually going on in him at that point in the story.
It just made me realize that Tifa was so comfortable getting close to him that they nearly unavoidably kissed and that was just her remembering what Cloud did for her when they were kids. What’s it going to be like when she pieces Cloud back together, realizes that he was there for her in Nibelheim, and that he’s also been in love with her all this time?
Anyways, that conversation in Gongaga was huge, and he nearly spills his guts there. I think we even hear a hint of the real Cloud there too. I’m so excited for the Lifestream sequence.
LOL. It’s crazy being on the older end of most people on social media and then I come here and I’m pretty average, even younger, comparatively. Just turned 27 last Wednesday. Thank you guys for making me not feel old.
In this moment I thought to myself it’s interesting that the weapon doesn’t give her back until Cloud approaches. I chalked it up to me just reading into it too much but also…could it have been intentional? We’re in a cut scene, and then it brings us out to take a few steps and go right back into a cut scene.
Sometimes I like to just rely on my snap interpretation which was, the weapon was giving her to Cloud specifically.
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She pretty much calls every outing a "date", even those she has with Tifa, so yeah, i don't think people should take that word at face value with her.
I'd like that to be true, but if it were then Barret catching her instead of Cloud would be an off design choice imo.
Yeah, do we have a list or random ass things she calls a date? The outing with Tifa is referred to as such, but I think there are more that are equally absurd (like asking him a single sentence about Tifa in Kalm).
Eerie
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I need to see the French translation of this one though I remember it was similar I think. Personally I feel that it's a chapter that shows us her heart; Nibelheim, where she grew up, and part of her bond with Cloud, that precious memory that kept escaping her so yeah, since we complete that only when Cloud comes near, I'd say Cloud, pretty much - and that means amongst the living too. Just like at the end of ACC, Cloud belong amongst the living, but by his family's side too.
GamerSkull
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If I recall correctly, in Remake, she says “I’m paying you right now” while she and Cloud are essentially side questing. And if the payment was a date, then literally even going around doing things to help people is a date for her.
By that same logic, Aerith would probably consider Cloud and Tifa running around collecting money for filters a date.
By that same logic, Aerith would probably consider Cloud and Tifa running around collecting money for filters a date.
nars305
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Very true. Like I said I really felt like I was reading into it too much.
luminous03
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What the hell? 
most of the members are adult with families or gf/bf, it feels like i am surrounded by uncles and aunties. Mind you i just reach 19 years in march and became a fan of ff7 in 2016 after watching the film AC( even without understanding anything). I recently join this forum and it already feels like a family so thank you all.
I'll be 22 yo in 2027 just like aerith haha ( i hope i don't die
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most of the members are adult with families or gf/bf, it feels like i am surrounded by uncles and aunties. Mind you i just reach 19 years in march and became a fan of ff7 in 2016 after watching the film AC( even without understanding anything). I recently join this forum and it already feels like a family so thank you all.I'll be 22 yo in 2027 just like aerith haha ( i hope i don't die
)Trust me, you will feel like surprisingly little changes about you after you're 19 for the next 20 or so years. (if you take care of yourself at least). I don't feel particularly older than I did back then at least. You'll mostly just look back and think "fuck, why did I used to think 35 year olds were adults, let alone old".What the hell?
I'll be 22 yo in 2027 just like aerith haha ( i hope i don't die
GamerSkull
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I still feel like an 18 year old. Mentally.
That’s actually the weird thing about getting old. You feel like you’re making the most progress as a child… but then you just feel the same for decades.
Also, if you’re like me… you start hating your birthdays because of the reminder.
I used to love my birthdays when I was little,
luminous03
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Seeing you guys talking about adulthood makes me feel at ease, because for me it seems scary, tho i believe everyone will face this sense. But at the same time it seems exciting and i would love to experience the different stage of life. But the thing is, time always fly so gotta enjoy every moment
Again thank you 4 everything
Again thank you 4 everything
LNK
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As someone who just turned 40, and is finishing up a half leg tattoo of my favorite studio ghibli characters, I'll probably play final fantasy games till I no longer have the capability to do so.
nars305
🎵 I am so, so bored 🎶
Omg my second and last tattoo I want to be Ghibli. Torn between what I want but kind of digging a Heron for his “last” movie. Congrats on finishing that up.
I think we are just the new type of adults. So I’m pretty sure we are all normal and valid. Not that I felt bad about all my likes that are pretty much the same as when I was a kid lmao. Anyway no one should feel old!
GamerSkull
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I still have plenty of FF games to still play. I still need to go back and play 1-5 and I haven’t given the MMO ones a shot yet.
So I see myself still playing for many years to come.
So I see myself still playing for many years to come.
shady
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Also, I mean you can say it's gameplay related but the weapon does nothing to release Tifa until Cloud himself approaches it. I'm willing to bet it means she belongs by Cloud's side.
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I had a whole conversation with Clicky just the other day about getting old and how it relates to our view of various characters. At this age I look at Cloud and see a poor, shy, inferiority complex riddled kid.. It took me by surprise when I realized I'd added that last word at some point, and upon inspection found it fir a ton of characters. I imagine it's normal... also I don't care if it's normal so there's that 
GamerSkull
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Final Fantasy and Existentialism.
A wonderful pair.
Edit: 1000th post.
A wonderful pair.
Edit: 1000th post.