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It's an entirely possible happenstance. But everyone's having fun tossing S-E under the bus, why spoil the fun?
New Novel, FINAL FANTASY VII Lateral Biography TURKS: The Kids Are Alright [SPOILER THREAD]
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It's an entirely possible happenstance. But everyone's having fun tossing S-E under the bus, why spoil the fun?
Theozilla
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Eh, I don't have much of a problem if Corneo is still alive post-Meteor; I have always held the philosophy with most fictional works "if you don't see the body, don't count on them being dead 100%" (perhaps I got this from reading superhero comics, where death really does not mean much). Still the thought that he keeps Miss Cloud pictures is kinda funny in a creepy sort of way.
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Strangelove
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A few chapter summaries (one line summaries, anyway).
1. Evan talks about his past and family, leading up to the Meteor disaster. Characters introduced: Evan, Evan's mother, Kuro the cat, Nix/Nick Foley
2. Skips to 2 years later, at Healin with Rufus and the Turks. A man called Fabio steals some Geostigma medication from the lodge. CI: Rufus, Tseng, Elena, Throp, Fabio Brown. Mentions: Sephiroth, Jenova, President Shinra
3. Reno and Rude pay Evan (Townshend) a visit, mistaking him for Fabio. Once they've gone, Evan goes to see Fabio but finds his little brother Vits, who has Geostigma, home alone. CI: Reno, Rude, 'Mouse-Face', Vits Brown. Mentions: Doyle
4. Evan heads to Seventh Heaven to meet his friends. Evan and Kyrie head to met a client. CI: Tifa, Leslie Kyle, Kyrie Canaan. Mentions: Marlene, Keogh (Mouse-Face), Marle. References: Kilmister, Reeve
5. Elena is displeased with how Reno and Rude handled the 'Fabio' situation.
2. Skips to 2 years later, at Healin with Rufus and the Turks. A man called Fabio steals some Geostigma medication from the lodge. CI: Rufus, Tseng, Elena, Throp, Fabio Brown. Mentions: Sephiroth, Jenova, President Shinra
3. Reno and Rude pay Evan (Townshend) a visit, mistaking him for Fabio. Once they've gone, Evan goes to see Fabio but finds his little brother Vits, who has Geostigma, home alone. CI: Reno, Rude, 'Mouse-Face', Vits Brown. Mentions: Doyle
4. Evan heads to Seventh Heaven to meet his friends. Evan and Kyrie head to met a client. CI: Tifa, Leslie Kyle, Kyrie Canaan. Mentions: Marlene, Keogh (Mouse-Face), Marle. References: Kilmister, Reeve
5. Elena is displeased with how Reno and Rude handled the 'Fabio' situation.
Strangelove
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That might be more like Evan, who has already wished death on people three times in five chapters 
Dashell
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Is this Kuro?
Come on that's just silly...
here's a REAL image of Cloud and Kuro:
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okay I feel bad now that I posted that and there's like a bunch of members viewing this expecting real spoilers
Edley
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Don't forget Nick Foley. Immediate thoughts of this guy sprang to mind.
Ok enough of my spam. I'll reserve judgement until we get some translations.
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Strangelove
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This is the summaries for the first half of the book (See me, feel me), including an expanded chapter 1 summary because a lot of that pretty important later one:
Also, a little explanation of the character notes if it's even needed:
- Characters Introduced/CI: First time a character appears in the story themselves (not just mentioned/referenced)
- Mentions: First time a character is mentioned by name in the story
- References: First time a character is indirectly (not by name) referenced in the story
1. Evan talks about his past and family, leading up to the Meteor disaster. Evan lived with his mother on the sector 6 plate. His father had died in the Wutai war, and his mother hated him. One day she brings home a man, Nix Foley, who says that the three of them are leaving Midgar. Evan storms out of the house, hoping to come back after their intended depature date and ruin their plans. On that day the second 7 plate falls, leaving Evan (in sector 8) to walk through all the other sectors to get home. When he arrives, he finds that his mother has gone. She left him a large sum of money, and a letter saying she will contact him when she's reached her destination. With no word from his mother and not wanting to spend the money she'd left, Evan started working to make a living until the day Meteor and the Lifestream destroy Midgar.
Characters introduced: Evan, Evan's mother, Kuro the cat, Nix/Nick Foley
Mentions: Evan's father
2. Skips to 2 years later, at Healin with Rufus and the Turks. A man called Fabio steals some Geostigma medication from the lodge.
CI: Rufus, Tseng, Elena, Throp, Fabio Brown
Mentions: Sephiroth, Jenova, President Shinra
3. Reno and Rude pay Evan (Townshend) a visit, mistaking him for Fabio. Once they've gone, Evan goes to see Fabio but finds his little brother Vits, who has Geostigma, home alone.
CI: Reno, Rude, 'Rat-Face', Vits Brown
Mentions: Doyle
4. Evan heads to Seventh Heaven to meet his friends. Evan and Kyrie head to met a client.
CI: Tifa, Leslie Kyle, Kyrie Canaan
Mentions: Marlene, Keogh (Rat-Face), Marle
References: Kilmister, Reeve
5. Elena is displeased with how Reno and Rude handled the 'Fabio' situation.
6. On their way through the slums to see the client, Arde, Evan reflects on how their detective agency got started. The job is to look for Arde's missing son Gould, a SOLDIER 2nd Class who went missing prior to the Meteor disaster.
CI: Tyran Arde
Mentions: Mireille, Gould Arde, 'man in the biker clothes', Ceddie, Aunt Liz
7. Elena visits the real Fabio to punish him for stealing the medicine.
8. As Evan is clearing up the mess Reno and Rude left his room in, Vits comes by in the middle of the night in pain. When they go back to Vits' home, Evan sees Fabio on the floor, beaten to a bloody pulp.
9. Evan, Kyrie and Leslie go to Johnny's Heaven, where Evan talks about what happened to Fabio.
CI: Johnny
Mentions: Mr. and Mrs Chico, Dr. Drake
10. After two days without sleep, Evan collapses outside the Mireille Detective Agency's office. Kyrie ends up going to Reno and Rude for help, but regrets it when the Turks say they're going to take her and Evan somewhere. They make plans to escape from the Turks into the slums.
11. Their escape attempt ends in failure, with Rude leading them to the truck that will take them wherever it is they're going on their 'drive'. Kyrie asks if this is how the Turks got Aerith.
Mentions: Aerith
12. Reno reveals that they are taking Evan to Healin, and it has something to do with his mother Annette Townshend. Kyrie talks about how she knew Aerith. Reno and Rude reveal that the photo Evan and Kyrie got from Tyran Arde of Gould was taken in Nibelheim.
References: AVALANCHE (FFVII)
13. Rufus and Tseng discuss Annette Townshend, a former secreterial worker for Shinra who was offered ten-times the standard retirement bonus when she quit.
14. Evan mets Rufus and Tseng, who tells him that he is the illegitamate son of the late President Shinra. They are interrupted when they hear an explosion from the woods.
15. Fabio, Doyle and Keogh attack the lodge to rescue Throp, a friend of Keogh's who had helped Fabio to steal the medicine. When they run into trouble, Evan bargins with the Turks by threatening Rufus, who lets them go.
CI: Doyle
16. On the way back home, Evan ends up banging his head and losing consciousness. He's taken to Dr. Drake's to be checked out. By this time, Evan and Kyrie have fallen out.
CI: Dr. Drake
17. Evan returns home and checks on Doyle and the others. He doesn't tell them the truth about what he talked about with Rufus (instead telling them they wanted to use him as Rufus' double), and decided to leave and get away from everyone.
18. In order to get fuel for his truck, Evan decides to contact the number from a business flyer he found, the Strife Delivery Service. Using the phone at Dr. Drake's office, he tells the boy who answers, Denzel, that he wants a letter delivering.
CI: Denzel, young girl (Marlene)
19: Reno complains about how Evan and Rufus had their 'family reunion' and how Tseng and Elena are off doing something and he can't get in touch with them.
20. While waiting for Cloud, Dr. Drake talks about the book/file he is reading: on Jenova, the subject of many Shinra experiments. Cloud arrives and Evan tells him that he actually wants fuel, to which Cloud replies that his choices are Shinra, the WRO, or Don Corneo in Wall Market. Evan mentions planning on heading to Nibelheim to find a lost SOLDIER. Cloud tells him to go ask about Nibelheim at Seventh Heaven.
CI: Cloud
Mentions: Don Corneo
21. Evan goes to Seventh Heaven to ask Tifa about Nibelheim. She seems reluctant for him to go there, but shows him the route. He tells her he's going to find his mother. She had been in the picture with Gould Arde. The man who had brought that photo to Tyran Arde was Foley.
22. Kyrie goes to see Reno and Rude to ask what they're done with Evan, thinking they've taken him or hurt him, and waits by Evan's car until he gets back.
23. Evan goes to Leslie's house in the slums to ask how to get to Don Corneo's. He meets Marle, Leslie's pregant girlfriend, who looks troubled when Evan mentions Corneo.
CI: Marle
24. Reno and Rude notice that Kyrie is still scared of them, which reminds them of Aerith.
25. Evan goes to see Corneo, now an old-looking man in a wheelchair, about getting fuel. He agrees and says it will be delivered to Edge. Corneo recognises Evan from a picture one of his men took off a bullitin board, which had been put there by Foley while he was looking for Evan. Evan takes two pictures from Corneo's walls: one of Cloud, Tifa and Aerith, and one of Marle. On his way out Corneo says Evan can take as many pictures as he likes, because he has copies of them all. Evan rips up the pictures.
CI: Don Corneo, Corneo's doorman
26. Evan goes back to Leslie's house to apologise for taking the picture of Marle from Corneo's in case something happens to him and Marle because of it. Leslie tells him not to worry, and how it was meeting him that made Leslie (a former man of Corneo's), Fabio (robber) and Kyrie (general life of crime) mend their ways.
27. Doyle arrives at the site of the monument being built by Shinra to tell Reno that he, Throp and Keogh will be helping out with the construction (as a way to make up for the damage they caused when rescuing Throp). Doyle notices Evan's truck he left with Reno to look at while he's gone. Rude tells Reno he's going to Midgar, where Tseng and Elena are going to get a helicopter.
28. Evan goes back to Seventh Heaven and gives the same apology he gave to Leslie about the picture he stole from Corneo. Tifa tells him that Kyrie was there earlier, and that she told her about Evan's Nibelheim plan. Evan returns to his car to find Kyrie there, who is set to go with Evan on his trip.
29. While Rude is fixing one of the helicopters, Tseng tells him and Reno of their new project: to find Jenova. However, Reno notices someone was listening in on their discussion, and Tseng sends Elena to capture whoever it was.
30. Evan and Kyrie spend the night in the car, waiting for the fuel to be delivered in the morning. They are surprised when it's Leslie who drops off the fuel, as well as weapons for Evan's trip. He went back to Corneo pretending to want his old job back, but instead burns down Corneo's house (Corneo himself survives). Evan and Kyrie get ready to set off together to Nibelheim.
Also, a little explanation of the character notes if it's even needed:
- Characters Introduced/CI: First time a character appears in the story themselves (not just mentioned/referenced)
- Mentions: First time a character is mentioned by name in the story
- References: First time a character is indirectly (not by name) referenced in the story
1. Evan talks about his past and family, leading up to the Meteor disaster. Evan lived with his mother on the sector 6 plate. His father had died in the Wutai war, and his mother hated him. One day she brings home a man, Nix Foley, who says that the three of them are leaving Midgar. Evan storms out of the house, hoping to come back after their intended depature date and ruin their plans. On that day the second 7 plate falls, leaving Evan (in sector 8) to walk through all the other sectors to get home. When he arrives, he finds that his mother has gone. She left him a large sum of money, and a letter saying she will contact him when she's reached her destination. With no word from his mother and not wanting to spend the money she'd left, Evan started working to make a living until the day Meteor and the Lifestream destroy Midgar.
Characters introduced: Evan, Evan's mother, Kuro the cat, Nix/Nick Foley
Mentions: Evan's father
2. Skips to 2 years later, at Healin with Rufus and the Turks. A man called Fabio steals some Geostigma medication from the lodge.
CI: Rufus, Tseng, Elena, Throp, Fabio Brown
Mentions: Sephiroth, Jenova, President Shinra
3. Reno and Rude pay Evan (Townshend) a visit, mistaking him for Fabio. Once they've gone, Evan goes to see Fabio but finds his little brother Vits, who has Geostigma, home alone.
CI: Reno, Rude, 'Rat-Face', Vits Brown
Mentions: Doyle
4. Evan heads to Seventh Heaven to meet his friends. Evan and Kyrie head to met a client.
CI: Tifa, Leslie Kyle, Kyrie Canaan
Mentions: Marlene, Keogh (Rat-Face), Marle
References: Kilmister, Reeve
5. Elena is displeased with how Reno and Rude handled the 'Fabio' situation.
6. On their way through the slums to see the client, Arde, Evan reflects on how their detective agency got started. The job is to look for Arde's missing son Gould, a SOLDIER 2nd Class who went missing prior to the Meteor disaster.
CI: Tyran Arde
Mentions: Mireille, Gould Arde, 'man in the biker clothes', Ceddie, Aunt Liz
7. Elena visits the real Fabio to punish him for stealing the medicine.
8. As Evan is clearing up the mess Reno and Rude left his room in, Vits comes by in the middle of the night in pain. When they go back to Vits' home, Evan sees Fabio on the floor, beaten to a bloody pulp.
9. Evan, Kyrie and Leslie go to Johnny's Heaven, where Evan talks about what happened to Fabio.
CI: Johnny
Mentions: Mr. and Mrs Chico, Dr. Drake
10. After two days without sleep, Evan collapses outside the Mireille Detective Agency's office. Kyrie ends up going to Reno and Rude for help, but regrets it when the Turks say they're going to take her and Evan somewhere. They make plans to escape from the Turks into the slums.
11. Their escape attempt ends in failure, with Rude leading them to the truck that will take them wherever it is they're going on their 'drive'. Kyrie asks if this is how the Turks got Aerith.
Mentions: Aerith
12. Reno reveals that they are taking Evan to Healin, and it has something to do with his mother Annette Townshend. Kyrie talks about how she knew Aerith. Reno and Rude reveal that the photo Evan and Kyrie got from Tyran Arde of Gould was taken in Nibelheim.
References: AVALANCHE (FFVII)
13. Rufus and Tseng discuss Annette Townshend, a former secreterial worker for Shinra who was offered ten-times the standard retirement bonus when she quit.
14. Evan mets Rufus and Tseng, who tells him that he is the illegitamate son of the late President Shinra. They are interrupted when they hear an explosion from the woods.
15. Fabio, Doyle and Keogh attack the lodge to rescue Throp, a friend of Keogh's who had helped Fabio to steal the medicine. When they run into trouble, Evan bargins with the Turks by threatening Rufus, who lets them go.
CI: Doyle
16. On the way back home, Evan ends up banging his head and losing consciousness. He's taken to Dr. Drake's to be checked out. By this time, Evan and Kyrie have fallen out.
CI: Dr. Drake
17. Evan returns home and checks on Doyle and the others. He doesn't tell them the truth about what he talked about with Rufus (instead telling them they wanted to use him as Rufus' double), and decided to leave and get away from everyone.
18. In order to get fuel for his truck, Evan decides to contact the number from a business flyer he found, the Strife Delivery Service. Using the phone at Dr. Drake's office, he tells the boy who answers, Denzel, that he wants a letter delivering.
CI: Denzel, young girl (Marlene)
19: Reno complains about how Evan and Rufus had their 'family reunion' and how Tseng and Elena are off doing something and he can't get in touch with them.
20. While waiting for Cloud, Dr. Drake talks about the book/file he is reading: on Jenova, the subject of many Shinra experiments. Cloud arrives and Evan tells him that he actually wants fuel, to which Cloud replies that his choices are Shinra, the WRO, or Don Corneo in Wall Market. Evan mentions planning on heading to Nibelheim to find a lost SOLDIER. Cloud tells him to go ask about Nibelheim at Seventh Heaven.
CI: Cloud
Mentions: Don Corneo
21. Evan goes to Seventh Heaven to ask Tifa about Nibelheim. She seems reluctant for him to go there, but shows him the route. He tells her he's going to find his mother. She had been in the picture with Gould Arde. The man who had brought that photo to Tyran Arde was Foley.
22. Kyrie goes to see Reno and Rude to ask what they're done with Evan, thinking they've taken him or hurt him, and waits by Evan's car until he gets back.
23. Evan goes to Leslie's house in the slums to ask how to get to Don Corneo's. He meets Marle, Leslie's pregant girlfriend, who looks troubled when Evan mentions Corneo.
CI: Marle
24. Reno and Rude notice that Kyrie is still scared of them, which reminds them of Aerith.
25. Evan goes to see Corneo, now an old-looking man in a wheelchair, about getting fuel. He agrees and says it will be delivered to Edge. Corneo recognises Evan from a picture one of his men took off a bullitin board, which had been put there by Foley while he was looking for Evan. Evan takes two pictures from Corneo's walls: one of Cloud, Tifa and Aerith, and one of Marle. On his way out Corneo says Evan can take as many pictures as he likes, because he has copies of them all. Evan rips up the pictures.
CI: Don Corneo, Corneo's doorman
26. Evan goes back to Leslie's house to apologise for taking the picture of Marle from Corneo's in case something happens to him and Marle because of it. Leslie tells him not to worry, and how it was meeting him that made Leslie (a former man of Corneo's), Fabio (robber) and Kyrie (general life of crime) mend their ways.
27. Doyle arrives at the site of the monument being built by Shinra to tell Reno that he, Throp and Keogh will be helping out with the construction (as a way to make up for the damage they caused when rescuing Throp). Doyle notices Evan's truck he left with Reno to look at while he's gone. Rude tells Reno he's going to Midgar, where Tseng and Elena are going to get a helicopter.
28. Evan goes back to Seventh Heaven and gives the same apology he gave to Leslie about the picture he stole from Corneo. Tifa tells him that Kyrie was there earlier, and that she told her about Evan's Nibelheim plan. Evan returns to his car to find Kyrie there, who is set to go with Evan on his trip.
29. While Rude is fixing one of the helicopters, Tseng tells him and Reno of their new project: to find Jenova. However, Reno notices someone was listening in on their discussion, and Tseng sends Elena to capture whoever it was.
30. Evan and Kyrie spend the night in the car, waiting for the fuel to be delivered in the morning. They are surprised when it's Leslie who drops off the fuel, as well as weapons for Evan's trip. He went back to Corneo pretending to want his old job back, but instead burns down Corneo's house (Corneo himself survives). Evan and Kyrie get ready to set off together to Nibelheim.
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Strangelove
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No one knows that Rufus is alive generally. But some former Shinra staff have kind of grouped together after Meteor, or he means to go see the Turks (who are spearheading the construction of the Meteor monument in Edge). But those Shinra staff aren't organised like they were before, and not all are affiliated with Rufus.
Elisa Maza
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So, Corneo survives, but is in a wheelchair... like Rufus? And then, his house is burned and he survives... AGAIN????
Cannot this pervert be put down permanently????
Thank you for your effort... um... Serah's Cat.
Cannot this pervert be put down permanently????
Thank you for your effort... um... Serah's Cat.
LicoriceAllsorts
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Evan is President's Shinra's illigitimate son? And Rufus didn't have him shot on the spot? Rufus, you are not the man I took you for.
Hito, your work is awesome - but the story is disappointingly unoriginal. The only bright point I can see is when Tseng and Elena go off together somewhere to do 'something'. Nudge nudge wink wink.
Hito, your work is awesome - but the story is disappointingly unoriginal. The only bright point I can see is when Tseng and Elena go off together somewhere to do 'something'. Nudge nudge wink wink.
Strangelove
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Elena is a stone-cold HBIC a lot of the time. Her answer to most problems seems to be "kill them" or at least "beat seven shades of shit out of them" 
It's kind of disappointing that they went with the "long lost abandoned son of President Shinra" thing again, after having done the same thing in Crisis Core. They really seem to be playing up the whole 'philandering President Shinra' thing.
That said, while there is a lot of focus on Evan's side of the story, the Turks do get a fair amount of screen time, with a lot of Evan's story so far involving them in some way. I wouldn't go into it expecting to see much of the original team (Tifa seems to have had the biggest actual role, with Aerith second even if it's mainly just in Kyrie's backstory), but rather looking at is as the title suggests: a side story set in the same world with some familiar characters.
Also, Cloud didn't really seem that broody so far. Just pretty normal, really.
It's kind of disappointing that they went with the "long lost abandoned son of President Shinra" thing again, after having done the same thing in Crisis Core. They really seem to be playing up the whole 'philandering President Shinra' thing.
That said, while there is a lot of focus on Evan's side of the story, the Turks do get a fair amount of screen time, with a lot of Evan's story so far involving them in some way. I wouldn't go into it expecting to see much of the original team (Tifa seems to have had the biggest actual role, with Aerith second even if it's mainly just in Kyrie's backstory), but rather looking at is as the title suggests: a side story set in the same world with some familiar characters.
Also, Cloud didn't really seem that broody so far. Just pretty normal, really.
LicoriceAllsorts
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The thing is, I would have been just as interested in Evan if he had been the kid he originally seemed to be. I thought his backstory in chapter one sounded quite believable. There was no need to make him related to the Shinra. And Don Corneo didn't have to come back to life in a wheelchair; his empire could have been taken over by Skotch or Kotch. It seems like there's a lack of imagination at work. But I thought the same at first about Case of Shinra, and then later decided it was really quite good.
Will the missing second class turn out to be Kunsel? I just hope he's not imprisoned in a test tube in some wing of the mansion that Cloud and co somehow failed to discover.
Will the missing second class turn out to be Kunsel? I just hope he's not imprisoned in a test tube in some wing of the mansion that Cloud and co somehow failed to discover.
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Unless Kunsel was a fake name and his real name was Gould, I don't think he will be
I was a bit unsure about Corneo coming back (though Tifa seemed surprised to find out he was alive), but the overall impression I got from his part in the story was that while he still has some power, he's mostly just a pathetic old (before his time) man alone with his pictures. He's still creepy, but pitiable.
I'm not too sure about how I feel about Evan's parentage so far. There was a risk of him basically being a second Denzel--boy from the Plates forced to go down and live in the slums--but ends up now a mix of a Denzel and a second Lazard, minus the desire for revenge.
I was a bit unsure about Corneo coming back (though Tifa seemed surprised to find out he was alive), but the overall impression I got from his part in the story was that while he still has some power, he's mostly just a pathetic old (before his time) man alone with his pictures. He's still creepy, but pitiable.
I'm not too sure about how I feel about Evan's parentage so far. There was a risk of him basically being a second Denzel--boy from the Plates forced to go down and live in the slums--but ends up now a mix of a Denzel and a second Lazard, minus the desire for revenge.