Joker
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So is Sephiroth the strongest dude in FF7 or what
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Cat Rage Room
Great Old One
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good job bro
Joker
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Seems to me that if you're going so fast that you're able to be in 7+ places "at once" by creating physically solid afterimages (i.e., if they cut you, you will bleed), then yes, you're likely moving at such high speed that the 50 milliseconds it takes for an image to travel from eye to brain plus interpret is far beneath you.
In other words, it's entirely possible that it's the speed of light. Who knows? No one has quantitatively measured the speed of sight yet, to my knowledge.
In other words, it's entirely possible that it's the speed of light. Who knows? No one has quantitatively measured the speed of sight yet, to my knowledge.
Cat Rage Room
Great Old One
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The speed of light, maybe
^because that seems more probable.
Several times the speed of light? No.
Super Mario
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Cool stories bros. But in the end, Sephiroth only wins in one respect:
Being overrated.
I still find it amusing that everyone still claims he is holding back...even at the climax. <__< He's one winged angel, his final form and absolute, and Cloudy beat him. So yeah, Cloudy still wins this fight and is declared T3H STR0nGEsTS!!!! He's sent Seph to Hell 3 times y0.
Being overrated.
I still find it amusing that everyone still claims he is holding back...even at the climax. <__< He's one winged angel, his final form and absolute, and Cloudy beat him. So yeah, Cloudy still wins this fight and is declared T3H STR0nGEsTS!!!! He's sent Seph to Hell 3 times y0.
Roger
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Characters leaving afterimages as a testimony to their speed is quite a popular device in Japanese fiction. Hell, Rosso and Weiss do it in FFVII: DoC.
Cat Rage Room
Great Old One
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Well, I'm not discounting the 'after image because I'm really fast' thing. Of course that's cool. I'm just pointing out the impossibility of a standard physical object being several times the speed of light. Cloud going several times the speed of light several times at that would make Gaia collapse on itself/explode
I am just being a science dick.
I am just being a science dick.
Ryushikaze
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We can see him move. He can't be moving as lightspeed or more.
And the 'speed of sight' is the same as the speed of light, limited by the brain's processing speed.
Semantics.
And Cloud afterimages are 'mako clones' if you will. Not Flash-esque afterimages.
Roger
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You should keep in mind that with Loz they actually stated that they were afterimages and the movie was slowed down for you benefit so you can follow his movement. Besides, Cloud's clones/afterimages were initially gold. Mako has never been gold. They changed the colour in ACC but I doubt they were going for a completely different explanation in it.
Joker
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Tbh, I'm not getting any further into the semantical argument of science. Why?
Because it's a world of total FICTION. It's not BOUND by any laws of science other than those the creators CHOOSE to bind it by. That's been my point since the beginning.
Ryu: no, I mean literally, the SPEED of sight. If your sight was shooting through space, how fast it would be relative to the speed of sound, sight, or whatever else.
Because it's a world of total FICTION. It's not BOUND by any laws of science other than those the creators CHOOSE to bind it by. That's been my point since the beginning.
Ryu: no, I mean literally, the SPEED of sight. If your sight was shooting through space, how fast it would be relative to the speed of sound, sight, or whatever else.
Ryushikaze
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And yet, even those must be consistent.
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Sight is a RECEPTIVE act, like your hearing.
It is limited by the speed of light, as sight is the act of light hitting the light detecting sensors in the eyeball then being processed and converted into images by the brain.
Shikama, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Evidence that Cloud is moving FTL even though we actually see him moving, please.
Makoeyes987
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Seriously, this is ridiculous. Cloud can't be moving faster than the speed of light because we can see the light and its after images. He's moving wickedly fast, but it is NOT faster than light. The closest thing to a character moving the speed of light is Sephiroth using "Flash" in KH2 where he literally moves so fast, he's behind you and you're fending off attacks even though he's not even moving.
Same goes for him using Godspeed in Dissidia.
THAT'S MOVEMENT THAT IS SO FAST THAT YOU CANNOT DETECT THE MOVEMENT OR VISUAL CUES FROM HIS BODY OR ACTIONS.
You're left fighting off his actions while his body is still.
Cloud's using high speed movement, but not faster than light movement, or movement that can't be visually traced.
Same goes for him using Godspeed in Dissidia.
THAT'S MOVEMENT THAT IS SO FAST THAT YOU CANNOT DETECT THE MOVEMENT OR VISUAL CUES FROM HIS BODY OR ACTIONS.
You're left fighting off his actions while his body is still.
Cloud's using high speed movement, but not faster than light movement, or movement that can't be visually traced.
And from all those times, the only moment where Sephiroth decided to use more than just his sword(aka the end of FFVII) Cloud needed a lot of help to beat him.
But Cloud is still stronger because we think Sephiroth is "0vErrAtEd!!!11one" and, for that reason, doesn't deserve any credit.
I agree with this.
DrakeClawfang
The Wanderer of Time
Fixed.
Makoeyes987
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DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY SAYS HI
DrakeClawfang
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I can already predict his response
"Dissidia doesn't count because
Makoeyes987
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Sure it doesn't, nevermind the numerous creator statements stating the contrary, and the abundant references to continuity within the game and story. Not to mention the fact it has "Final Fantasy" in its name and is stated to be a main installment.
Makoeyes987
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Apparently not.
So we can look to Cloud and Sephiroth's two confrontations in Dissidia where Sephiroth can hurl meteors with the Black Materia, use Shadow Flare, and attack with Heartless Angel, as examples of Sephiroth using all of his best physical AND magical techniques...
And still failing.
So we can look to Cloud and Sephiroth's two confrontations in Dissidia where Sephiroth can hurl meteors with the Black Materia, use Shadow Flare, and attack with Heartless Angel, as examples of Sephiroth using all of his best physical AND magical techniques...
And still failing.
DrakeClawfang
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Makoeyes987
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Load up the proofz ammo and let her fly.
There's a reason why the Cannoneer job of FFV was one of my favorites you know
Roger
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I didn't claim anything extraordinary, characters moving faster then the eye can, while the viewer is still given the benefit of seeing him is an old, cliche, beaten down story device. I'm honestly not seeing why you find it so hard to accept. I've said this before, this isn't new. Loz, Weiss and Rosso did as well. But you know as well as I do Omnislash V5 was never given an explanation. I can ask you for where that goldenglowing supposed energy was coming from as well.