So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[Ryushikaze]

...Zee, you argued that all the KH characters were 'basically the same'
Whether or not you use the word core or basically, this is inherently a wrong statement. They are recognizable as their original selves, but they are all inherently quite different as a result of their now altered circumstances and backstories.

This would be like taking the regular and red son versions of Superman and calling them 'basically the same' when one was raised in America as a capitalist and the other in Russia believing in the communist ideal.

 

[Makoeyes987]

And yes their personalities in KH are similar to their personalities in their Final Fantasy words. No one should say otherwise. But you can't really bring in points from one world and spread them out over another, that ... just doesn't work. AU universe is AU.

I sure don't remember Squall being friendly or happily accepting the mantle of leader in my playthrough of FFVIII.

 

[Winter]

Huh? Was Cloud in it?

:|

Have you ever played Kingdom Hearts? Why would he be looking for Hercules if he's in the same tournament he's in, and Hades is the person telling him to go kill him? Why would he even need to look for him when his contract tells him that info already?

OH MY GOD REALLY




Cloud was looking for Aerith.

The thought of him going to Hades for help was a throwback to the movie Hercules, where Meg did the SAME THING.


apparently none of you actually watch disney movies

 

[Ryushikaze]

... wat

He was PICKED ON. He BEAT THEM UP. He's not Sylar, jesus fuck.

CLOUD picked the fights. He was the instigator, and he admits this.

Vines, Cloud was looking for Sephiroth in KH. Both he, Sephy, and Aerith say so.

 

[Dashell]

Hi, when was it stated that Cloud was picked on?

...

don't hate me Winter, but I really would like an answer *

Cloud was looking for Aerith.

The thought of him going to Hades for help was a throwback to the movie Hercules, where Meg did the SAME THING.

Meg was looking for Aerith?

 

[Kikyou]

I say just do it in paint and upload them

LOL MICROSOFT. FUCK WINDOWS.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

... wat

He was PICKED ON. He BEAT THEM UP. He's not Sylar, jesus fuck.

Show me where he was PICKED on. SHOW ME. For fuck's sake did you play the game? When Cloud himself says HE was the one that thought the other kids were stupid? That he lost control and picked fights FOR NO REASON--his words, for crying out loud.

Cloud is NOT a victim of anything other than himself.

Yes, I'm sure the kid that was BFF with his mother and cried like a baby when Aerith died is JUST LIKE THAT.

When the fuck did Cloud cry? His eyes were "burning" (Rage, anyone?) and I have never seen reference to him weeping--EVER.

Compilation. Learn it.

 

[Makoeyes987]

:|


Cloud was looking for Aerith.

The thought of him going to Hades for help was a throwback to the movie Hercules, where Meg did the SAME THING.


apparently none of you actually watch disney movies

Sure he was. That's why Aerith said he was looking for Sephiroth.

 

[Zee]

How am I insulting you if I'm telling you your more intelligent than you're acting? lol logick.

So Yuna's a ditzy airhead pixie at heart? I must've missed that in FFX-FFX-2.

They were capitalizing on the FFX-2 Cheese factor, how is that not obvious? Same way they played up badass emo Cloud from Disk One.

Why do you keep using Yuna as an example as though pixies are helping you? Look at Yuffie. Basic character remains the same, spunk ninja type. And...lol, I posted this not one page ago.

 

[Dashell]

When was Cloud BFF with his mother O_o

 

[Frostwave]

He wasn't. She was a doter, but he never looked like he was attached to her apron strings.

 

[Winter]

CLOUD picked the fights. He was the instigator, and he admits this.

Yes, because he was an outcast. I guess "picked on" weren't the right words since Square never spoonfed us this information, but he was an outcast and instigated fights because he didn't fit in.

Sure he was. That's why Aerith said he was looking for Sephiroth.

Because he could not POSSIBLY have been looking for BOTH of them? I mean I got the little reunion scene at the end of KHI, but I guess it went over everyone else's head.

When the fuck did Cloud cry? His eyes were "burning" (Rage, anyone?) and I have never seen reference to him weeping--EVER.

So he was having an asthma attack when he was holding her? Or was he an epileptic? Or was he, like most people assumed, SOBBING.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

When was Cloud BFF with his mother O_o

Someone has to love him. Apparently he's a wimpy ass cry-baby that can't find his way home...

 

[Zee]

When the fuck did Cloud cry? His eyes were "burning" (Rage, anyone?) and I have never seen reference to him weeping--EVER.

Cloud is such a motherfucking badass, he doesn't even cry when his friend gets killed right in front of him. He's like a tiger or some shit goddamn, he'll kill your mother and your sister with that big ass fucking sword of his. What about those spikes? Well shit they'll poke out your goddamn eye, how the fuck should I know, it's like a motherfucking chocobo and shit

 

[Dashell]

Because he could not POSSIBLY have been looking for BOTH of them? I mean I got the little reunion scene at the end of KHI, but I guess it went over everyone else's head.

Go back a couple pages, we all ready discussed how and why he was looking for Sephiroth

Someone has to love him. Apparently he's a wimpy ass cry-baby that can't find his way home...

HAHHAA.. well... I guess he... o.o

.. why does that turn me on?

Also I'm fairly certain Cloud cried when Aerith died

 

[Makoeyes987]

How am I insulting you if I'm telling you your more intelligent than you're acting? lol logick.

Subtle flame isn't so subtle. You're amusing.

They were capitalizing on the FFX-2 Cheese factor, how is that not obvious? Same way they played up badass emo Cloud from Disk One.

Exactly, and they made a hollow, superficial caricature of Yuna that is nowhere near how her original persona or character was in FFX or FFX-2. It was based on a superficial image, and that isn't the core or "essentially the same." I guess Earth Prime Superman and Kal-El are "essentially the same" since they're both Superman on their respective worlds in the multiverse. Never mind one goes psycho and becomes a member of the Sinestro Corps.

Why do you keep using Yuna as an example as though pixies are helping you? Look at Yuffie. Basic character remains the same, spunk ninja type. And...lol, I posted this not one page ago.

Because I'm using the characters that got lost in translation the most. Yuffie's the most similar but every FF character isn't Yuffie, now are they?

 

[Fairheartstrife]

So he was having an asthma attack when he was holding her? Or was he an epileptic? Or was he, like most people assumed, SOBBING.

I guess the expression "tremble with rage" means nothing to you, then. **eyeroll**

 

[KissTheRain]

When the fuck did Cloud cry? His eyes were "burning" (Rage, anyone?) and I have never seen reference to him weeping--EVER.

"Holding Aertih in his arms to prevent her collapsed body from falling, Cloud can do nothing but crying out."
I believe this is from the Ultimania and says he was "crying out", but that could be just his convo with Sephiroth not literally crying.

Exactly, and they made a hollow, superficial caricature of Yuna that is nowhere near how her original persona or character was in FFX or FFX-2

I'm sorry, but imo that Yuna in KH represented her quite as she was in FFX-2 and she would most likely act according to that way not near like FFX because she is with YRP. Just my opinion though so you can scratch it.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Because he could not POSSIBLY have been looking for BOTH of them? I mean I got the little reunion scene at the end of KHI, but I guess it went over everyone else's head.

Where was it said he was ever looking for Aerith?

And yeah, the reunion occurred thanks to Cid finally finding him and taking him back home himself. Good job letting context fly over your head.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Cloud is such a motherfucking badass, he doesn't even cry when his friend gets killed right in front of him. He's like a tiger or some shit goddamn, he'll kill your mother and your sister with that big ass fucking sword of his. What about those spikes? Well shit they'll poke out your goddamn eye, how the fuck should I know, it's like a motherfucking chocobo and shit

retarded post is retarded.

You can keep you wimpy ass, sobbing version of Cloud. I'll take Compilation's, Kay? Thnx.

 

[Zee]

What part of his speech makes you think he's in a rage?

You can keep you wimpy ass, sobbing version of Cloud. I'll take Compilation's, Kay? Thnx.

Nevermind, you're buying into fanfic!Cloud rather than the person he's portrayed to be. cuz he's so crawwwwliiin in my skiiiinn

 

[Dashell]

No I get the whimpy ass sobbing version of Cloud

.... uhm.... also crying when a loved one dies doesn't make you a wimp It makes you a normal person. Not that Cloud is normal but...

 

[Winter]

Cloud is such a motherfucking badass, he doesn't even cry when his friend gets killed right in front of him. He's like a tiger or some shit goddamn, he'll kill your mother and your sister with that big ass fucking sword of his. What about those spikes? Well shit they'll poke out your goddamn eye, how the fuck should I know, it's like a motherfucking chocobo and shit

My name is Cloud, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass love triangles. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to hentai.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was a motherfucking SOLDIER, and beat the shit out of people for fun. What shit do you do, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my bitch

 

[Zee]

I WISH I COULD THANK YOU A MILLION TIMES

 

[Makoeyes987]

That was actually pretty damn humorous, I have to say.

But I think we should probably try to continue discussing and staying on something that has a semblance of a topic regarding the LT.