So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[Tennyo]

lol wut? Who is winter and who asked her that? XD

 

[I Am Not Me]

Winter: she one time just randomly asked me
Winter: do you think Cloud masturbates about Aerith and then cries?:
Quexinos: ROFL
Winter: I almost died laughing

LOLWAT XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Oh gah... oh poor Cloudy.

 

[Isabella]

It reminds me of that one cheesy fanart of Cloud holding the ribbon and crying. Does anyone still have that?

 

[Dashell]

Yes, we must post Cloud crying pics the moar the better.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Winter: she one time just randomly asked me
Winter: do you think Cloud masturbates about Aerith and then cries?:
Quexinos: ROFL
Winter: I almost died laughing

HMMMM. Wat?

 

[Dashell]

I just picture Cloud doing it.

Cloud: Oh... yes.. yes... YES.. YES AERRUGH OH AERITH YES!!... aahhh... yeah... that's nice... *looks around*... *sobs*

 

[Tennyo]

That's just all kinds of awkward.

 

[Ryushikaze]

OK, that made me lmao

Thankee much.

I... no... because that one you actually can sorta pick who Clouds loves. It could be Barret in that game

Except the date isn't the decider. The lifestream and the highwind scene are.

then where's my thanks?

Coming to me as it should, since that's my snark.

 

[Tennyo]

I think I missed the snark. There are a few things I'm not following. lol

 

[Isabella]

Well, first familiarize yourself with this quote from that Nojima interview.

"Episode Tifa"... first off, there's the premise that things won't go well between Tifa and Cloud, and that even without Geostigma or Sephiroth this might be the same. I don't really intend to go on about my views on love or marriage or family (laughs). After ACC, I guess Denzel and Marlene could help them work it out. Maybe things would have gone well with Aerith, but I think there is a great burden from Aerith. Oh, I just remembered. I wanted to write Cloud as a person, seen through Tifa's eyes. But he really isn't the type to open up (laughs).

 

[Madame Mayor]

... really? What's the true translation then?

From what I understand it's "her" in English, but "them" in Japanese. Cloud is talking about going to meet their dead friends, and Tifa agrees, "Ya, let's go meet them." The UO I believe goes into further detail explaining it like that.

 

[Dashell]

Except the date isn't the decider. The lifestream and the highwind scene are.

Yes the "lifestream" and the "highwind" scene "decide" what is is .. gotcha..

I wasn't being snarky I just like the smiley.
and I don't wanna have that argument again

Coming to me as it should, since that's my snark.

Fine
*thanks Ryu*

 

[Frostwave]

I just picture Cloud doing it.

Cloud: Oh... yes.. yes... YES.. YES AERRUGH OH AERITH YES!!... aahhh... yeah... that's nice... *looks around*... *sobs*

HILARIOUS, Quexi. omg.

 

[Madame Mayor]

Maybe if Cloud was going to the rooms of whoever the date mechanism chooses and asking them out I could maybe see it as having a choice in who Cloud's interested in, but he's dragged out, looks miserable in most, and only shows the slightest interest in Tifa. Even then, it's before Cloud is himself.

When he becomes himself, it's all about one lady.

Also, why does going on a date = love? I get interest, but why on earth would who Cloud goes on one date with mean he's in love with that person? Guess I never took dating that seriously. *shrugs*

 

[Ryushikaze]

Maybe if Cloud was going to the rooms of whoever the date mechanism chooses and asking them out I could maybe see it as having a choice in who Cloud's interested in, but he's dragged out, looks miserable in most, and only shows the slightest interest in Tifa. Even then, it's before Cloud is himself.

Among many other reasons, that's a part of why taking the date values as 'Cloud's attraction to X' makes no goddamn sense. Hell, taking them as anything OTHER than a game mechanic doesn't make sense, given the incredible arbitrariness of the scenarios which change the parameters for all for involved. To say nothing of Barrett being included (and yes, if Date = valid choice, then Barret = valid choice)

When he becomes himself, it's all about one lady.

But Brooke, ellipses, Rejection! Just his history! Roommates! Location! Etc.!

Also, why does going on a date = love? I get interest, but why on earth would who Cloud goes on one date with mean he's in love with that person? Guess I never took dating that seriously. *shrugs*

To those who've never dated, it's much bigger a deal.

And yeah, how come none of the Clerith seem to look at Cloud's end of the dates? Cloud is confused with Aerith, bored with Barret, irritated at Yuffie, and yet, he actually wants to know what Tifa was about to say after their date.
And hers was the only one interrupted by fireworks, yadda yadda yadda everything I've gone on and on about time and again and don't wish to rant about, which by certain logic means it's not actually part of this discussion even though it most definitely is by overt implication.

 

[Dashell]

he actually wants to know what Tifa was about to say after their date.
And hers was the only one interrupted by fireworks

 

[Vendel]

And hers was the only one interrupted by fireworks, yadda yadda yadda everything I've gone on and on about time and again and don't wish to rant about, which by certain logic means it's not actually part of this discussion even though it most definitely is by overt implication.

Shhh shhh. Hush lambkin. Let Vendel handle it.



Also a question for you all. If Aerith had to choose between Zack and Cloud (given the opportunity) who would she choose?

Please elaborate on your rapid CloTi responses.

 

[Dashell]

My first though:

Zack cause Cloud is taken by Tifa

... so are we assuming Cloud is single for this question?

 

[Vendel]

My first though:

Zack cause Cloud is taken by Tifa

... so are we assuming Cloud is single for this question?

It's just a hypothetical.

 

[Dashell]

It's a good question. CoLW really seems to show that she loves Cloud deeply and that her feelings in FFVII might have not just been left over from Zack... but in AC/C she walks off with Zack in the end ... but Zack was a womanizer so...

Don't hate me but I'd have to say she'd pick Cloud if she could.

BUTIMSSTILLAHUGECLOTISUPPORTERANDIDONTENDORCECLERITHOFANYKINDSONOFLAMESPLZKTHX.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

but Zack was a womanizer so...

This just...no. Seriously. Fucking no.


Also, the original meet her there was more generalized, like a "them". I think this was already answered, but I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you, I went to bed.

 

[Madame Mayor]

To be honest I took Aerith calling Cloud her koibito thing as her still being confused. The book takes place right after she dies right? And she doesn't see Zack at all. Is Cloud even himself yet at this point? Is she saying the confused/messed up Cloud is her koibito, or the real Cloud?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Now, I know this might be hard to wrap your head around, Quexi, but that's not the actual date. Certain clues might have clued you in. Like the different artstyle, or being made by someone else. Or them dying, of course.
And there's also the semantic argument that the date wasn't interrupted but ended by a single firework.

Shhh shhh. Hush lambkin. Let Vendel handle it.

No, and don't call me lambkin.

Also a question for you all. If Aerith had to choose between Zack and Cloud (given the opportunity) who would she choose?

Please elaborate on your rapid CloTi responses.

Zack. We know she was attracted to Cloud because of the Zack in him, and was subconsciously in denial over his death, so yeah.

As for the COLW Line, it is in the past tense, so yeah.

This just...no. Seriously. Fucking no.

Also, the original meet her there was more generalized, like a "them". I think this was already answered, but I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you, I went to bed.

It specified no 'them' or anything, but the UO's ending animatic said they spoke of Cloud and Tifa meeting fallen friends in the event of their demise, among them Aerith.

 

[Dashell]

Now, I know this might be hard to wrap your head around, Quexi, but that's not the actual date. Certain clues might have clued you in. Like the different artstyle, or being made by someone else. Or them dying, of course.
And there's also the semantic argument that the date wasn't interrupted but ended by a single firework.

What the? You mean that's NOT how she died?... I coulda sworn...

lso, the original meet her there was more generalized, like a "them". I think this was already answered, but I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you, I went to bed.

Okay thanks... bed is good

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Wow, 60 votes so far and only three voted for Aerith. And one of the votes was sort of a joke vote.
Edit: no wait, 61, my bad.