So, what do you think the LTD conclusion is? (Round 2)

[Dawnbreaker]

...and I'm arguing the point that she used a power after she died. Or rather arguing the possiblity that it happened.

 

[Max Payne]

You got a weird definition of power. Aerith didn't do all that alone either.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

Power is an obscure word so I can't understand how my view it could be "weird".

And if she didn't do it alone, who did she do it all with?

And if didn't do it all alone, and someone was there to help her, perhaps they could have helped her shield Cloud.

It's all called a "theory".

 

[Max Payne]

Power is an obscure word so I can't understand how my view it could be "weird".

And if she didn't do it alone, who did she do it all with?

And if didn't do it all alone, and someone was there to help her, perhaps they could have helped her shield Cloud.

It's all called a "theory".

LOL theories.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Theories are good. I think the questioning of yours stems from Aerith extending an overt power that we've NOT seen her do. I'm not saying intervention by Aerith didn't happen, because the conversation in the white space says clearly she intercepted Cloud... somewhere between life and death, which is why--for me--it makes more sense that he was very nearly dead, because Aerith remains in the lifestream. The healing rain is laced with lifestream...not anything OF Aerith; yes she commands it, but she didn't create it. As Cetra, she exerts will over the Lifestream, so it would make logical--and remaining with what we've been shown as evidence of her power--sense that she could intervene there.

My 2 cents anyway.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

LOL theories.

It could be bunnies...

 

[Vendel]

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Theories are good. I think the questioning of yours stems from Aerith extending an overt power that we've NOT seen her do. I'm not saying intervention by Aerith didn't happen, because the conversation in the white space says clearly she intercepted Cloud... somewhere between life and death, which is why--for me--it makes more sense that he was very nearly dead, because Aerith remains in the lifestream. The healing rain is laced with lifestream...not anything OF Aerith; yes she commands it, but she didn't create it. As Cetra, she exerts will over the Lifestream, so it would make logical--and remaining with what we've been shown as evidence of her power--sense that she could intervene there.

My 2 cents anyway.

Or she just used a phoenix down on him. "At least I remember I have one when you die Cloud".

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Cloud: "Oh, I had one..."

 

[Tennyo]

Or she just used a phoenix down on him. "At least I remember I have one when you die Cloud".

Sig time!

 

[Dawnbreaker]

Theories are good. I think the questioning of yours stems from Aerith extending an overt power that we've NOT seen her do. I'm not saying intervention by Aerith didn't happen, because the conversation in the white space says clearly she intercepted Cloud... somewhere between life and death, which is why--for me--it makes more sense that he was very nearly dead, because Aerith remains in the lifestream. The healing rain is laced with lifestream...not anything OF Aerith; yes she commands it, but she didn't create it. As Cetra, she exerts will over the Lifestream, so it would make logical--and remaining with what we've been shown as evidence of her power--sense that she could intervene there.

My 2 cents anyway.

I don't think I said she created the power, but rather had a power, which could be simply her using a power that's present. And since she shows other powers, and no explaination is given as to why Cloud survived the blast, considering that Aerith had something to do with it isn't too farfetched.

And really, no one can roffle at theories when this entire thread is deovted to "what do you think".

 

[Fairheartstrife]

I don't think I said she created the power, but rather had a power, which could be simply her using a power that's present. And since she shows other powers, and no explaination is given as to why Cloud survived the blast, considering that Aerith had something to do with it isn't too farfetched.

And really, no one can roffle at theories when this entire thread is deovted to "what do you think".

Or consider that Cloud maybe had Materia equipped. Or maybe he fell and the wind carried him away and to the church, or maybe it WAS bunnies.

Of course we can roffle at theories. Just because it's theory and opinion doesn't make it impervious to mocking/question/discussion/dissection.

You gave a theory on what you believe may have happened on the rooftop that prevented Cloud from being BBQ. It's a solid theory in your mind, and that's good that you can back it up because everything in these threads comes under question.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Dude. He was teleported. That's all. The Reunion Files pretty much say he "appeared" at the Church. There's nothing else to it.

 

[Vendel]

Dude. He was teleported. That's all. The Reunion Files pretty much say he "appeared" at the Church. There's nothing else to it.

That still doesn't explain if his promised land is the Church or just the pool of water in it?

 

[Makoeyes987]

LOL I think his promised land is his family and friends.

I'm just talking about the whole "how Aerith got Cloud to the Church to heal him" and stuff discussion.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

And I repeat...teleportated by whom?

Honestly is my theory so farfetched when nothing else of any real substance has been presented? Isn't that debate works? That one person presents a theory, backs it up with some evidence and then the other person presents their theory, backed up with evidence?

I refuse to refute the possiblity of my theory until someone presents either a definite answer or at least a better possiblity.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Aerith and Zack probably.

They don't say anything about Cloud being protected by the blast. He pretty much ate it to the face. He was near death thanks to it and thus he appeared at the church from where he was before with Aerith and Zack. The "white space."

 

[Max Payne]

Cloud clearly bounced off a few buildings before making his bed in the ceiling of the church.

He's like a ping pong ball.

 

[Vendel]

He's like a ping pong ball.

Because he's white and likes to get paddled?

"ZACK!!!"

 

[Isabella]

I'm only half reading this discussion I admit, but if MILF's theory is that Aerith had something to do with Cloud appearing in the church I'd have to agree. She told everyone to go wait for him there, after all. It's the only evidence we have to go on.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I'm only half reading this discussion I admit, but if MILF's theory is that Aerith had something to do with Cloud appearing in the church I'd have to agree. She told everyone to go wait for him there, after all. It's the only evidence we have to go on.

That's what I think too. But I don't know about a force field though. Cloud ate that blast with a spoon.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

They don't say anything about Aerith and Zack transporting him either, though I agree it's a possiblity, but others do not. I personally got annoyed by all the floating, whitespace, flowerfield talks in la-la land but I suppose that's what FF7 was about, so wouldn't it stand to reason so would AC be it to?

 

[Isabella]

That's what I think too. But I don't know about a force field though. Cloud ate that blast with a spoon.

Oh absolutely. If he wasn't dead in the white space then he was only mostly dead.

 

[Max Payne]

Because he's white and likes to get paddled?

"ZACK!!!"

YES.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

And I repeat...teleportated by whom?

Honestly is my theory so farfetched when nothing else of any real substance has been presented? Isn't that debate works? That one person presents a theory, backs it up with some evidence and then the other person presents their theory, backed up with evidence?

I refuse to refute the possiblity of my theory until someone presents either a definite answer or at least a better possiblity.

Well, your theory is that Aerith in some way protected Cloud and then the others brought him to the church--which makes absolutely no sense based on This: "It's like she said, wait here and Cloud will come back."

Not: "Cloud will be brought here."

As Mako...erm, Troll King, said, it's stated that Cloud "appears" in the church. As in, he becomes corporeal again. As in, he wasn't for a few hours. It's also stated in the timeline that he's "gone" for about 10 hours. Now, those are some pruney kids if they stood in that water for 10 hours...

Yes, I believe Aerith interfered, but not in the aspect you do. i think she and Zack prevented him from going into the Lifestream, but didn't prevent his "death".

 

[Vendel]

Oh absolutely. If he wasn't dead in the white space then he was only mostly dead.

There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.