LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
It's hard to kick ass when you're eight months pregnant.
We are playing after the rules of anime hereI know what Nojima wrote and it can't be unwritten, but I find it completely unbelievable that at age 22 (I think she's 22?) Aerith has NEVER given a single thought to the question of whether she will ever marry and have children. I do not know of a single woman (or man) who didn't ponder that question multiple times in their adolescence. They may have decided that marriage and/or children wasn't for them, but they certainly thought about it. And Aerith had a VERY SERIOUS relationship with Zack. Am I meant to believe that the idea of marrying him and having children with him never once even crossed her mind? If Aerith was like most girl, she already had her kids' names picked out by the time she was thirteen! The most demure and innocent virgin can still daydream about love, marriage, a little cottage with roses round the door, and kids playing in the garden.
If there is a single person on this forum who can say, hand on heart, that they reached the age of 22 without ever once thinking about whether they'd want to get married/have kids one day, I will eat these words.
Also rule of anime lolThe fact that Nojima gave Cloud and Tifa adopted kids is pretty telling to me that Cloud and/or Tifa can't have kids.
There is always a huge emphasis on Aerith being innocent and shit in her bios thoNice try everybody but I still don't buy it. I don't see any evidence of Aerith being sheltered. She grew up in the slums, she's street-wise, she knows what goes on in Wall Market, she knows exactly what Corneo's after and what his men want with the 'leftovers' and she 's not fazed by it. She can defend herself. Plus she's had at least one boyfriend. Even if she and Zack didn't have sex, which I hope they did because sex is nice and a good way to share love with your loved one, there is just absolutely no way she would have reached the age of 22 without ever once thinking about the prospect of having a child - her mother's grandchild - to whom she could pass on that 'useless' white materia. Elmyra seems like a pretty street-wise sort herself - do you think she'd have allowed Aerith to wallow in ignorance? You can bet they had The Talk when Zack appeared in her life, if not before.
The line can't be unwritten now, but it strikes a rare false note in this novel.
Yes. Cuz we follow the rules of anime hereYes, I don't get this official emphasis on Aerith being 'innocent' when she so obviously isn't. The only way she could live the life she does and remain 'innocent' would be if she was a simpleton, and she's not. Are we supposed to think she isn't interested in sex? Doesn't like sex? Doesn't want sex? Why would we wish that on such a beloved character?
There might come a day where she would no longer be ‘the final descendant of the Cetra’. She imagined that scenario in astonishment and fixed her eyes on Tifa. She then flustered ―
They are rather creepy rules tbh.
There is always a huge emphasis on Aerith being innocent and shit in her bios tho
I mean in some way this has to be expressed and obviously the way how the girls are portrayed has a lot to do with idol culture. Like Tifa and Aerith have almost zero sexual drive like c'mon they both are good looking women in their 20s
It's literally in her newest profile descriptionWhat bios are you talking about? Because no where is she called or emphasized with the term "innocent." And it's certainly not the Remake bios. The Japanese Ultimania bios for her emphasize her being kind but also mischievous and playful. And Nojima has always characterized and described Aerith as playful and flirty. If anyone is modest, it's Tifa because she's shy, but she clearly isn't that shy given what she wore to her mountain guide job when she thought Cloud was coming. I don't know where anyone is getting this idea that they're trying to make her or Tifa innocent.
The only implications I got from Aerith never thinking about children is the fact she never pictured herself having a future that far into her life. It's not about being innocent about sex, it's about her not seeing a future where she carries on the Cetra legacy. An unconscious pessimism of her future. @Phantasia hit the nail on the head as well. There's nothing going around about innocence here, they're very much aware of reality and what they're looking for.
dude we literally have the translation of her 10th anniversary profile page on this site where it says again:Audrey translated that as "pure of heart" before.
That's the same profile she been had for the Remake, just republished. It's stating she's an optimist and good person. The translator rendered that as "innocent" which also, kinda-sorta works but nowhere else is she deemed "innocent." Certainly not in any other FFVII profile. So I wouldn't say that there's this "emphasis" on her being innocent. She's just a kind, good hearted optimist.
also pure of heart=innocent
...So you are ignoring two instances where she is called innocent even though you claimed before that she was never called something like that in her profiles which was in reaction to my post where the only thing I stated was that there is a emphasis of calling Aerith innocent and that this has to be somehow expressed in the story? Ah Classic MakoSo you're going to ignore that the actual profile calls her "overflowing with brightness and sometimes mischief?"
That's a just lead in description of how her role appeared in FFVII, but that's not in her actual descriptive profile that describes or introduces her. Which is what matters. I forgot that sentence exists but you could look anywhere else and the commentary Nojima and Nomura give about Aerith and they emphasize her playful and flirty nature with Cloud. She's not described as some innocent child.
...So you are ignoring two instances where she is called innocent even though you claimed before that she was never called that in her profiles which was in reaction to my post where the only thing I stated was that there is a emphasis of calling Aerith innocent and that this has to be somehow expressed in the story? Ah Classic Mako
Aerith has the innocence of a young girl....But there is a gap between her appearance and inner personality, with her aspects of “innocence” and “beauty.” On the other hand, Tifa has a bold costume that exposes her a lot, but she actually isn’t that confident.
hell yeah keep shifting that goal post...One only is an alternate rendering of "pure of heart" which is what Audrey translated as, directly. And the 10th Anniversary profile I already said I forgot but even then, that's the tagline sentence opening the FFVII portion. The actual profile text, describes her actual character differently. That's not the same thing. And again, you're ignoring all the other times Aerith has been clearly stated to be the exact opposite. Aerith isn't about being naive or "innocent," you're placing way too much emphasis on 1.5 lines using that word.