News of an FFVII Remake from Square Enix Soon?
by Makoeyes987 August 30, 2009 0 comments
In an interview with videogamer.com, Yoshinori Kitase gave a promising hint of news of an FFVII remake, stating fans should expect news on it at a later date.
Also, at GamesCom in Cologne, Germany, Kitase was quoted saying regarding an FFVII remake through a translator..
There’s no official project that’s up and running for a remake of Final Fantasy VII at this point. Both Toriyama-san and Kitase-san were involved in the development of the game, however, and it holds a special place in their hearts. They do talk about it on a personal level, like, ‘If we did it it would be like this or like that.’
“So, they do talk about it, but there’s no official project yet. But there’s that PSN release that just came out, so if you could play that for the time being, it should be fun.”
So for now, fans will have to tide themselves over with the re-release of the original game on the PS Network. But it still seems the creators are toying with the idea and thinking on it fondly. Who knows where their discussion will lead.
Source: Videogamer.com and gamezine.co.uk
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First and foremost, we need to talk about your “intellectual dishonesty” and “impossible to debate with” nonsense. Look, I’ve been trying to be cordial up until this point, but to be honest, you’re not making it easy. You refuse to let go of an interpretation that obviously does not work. You keep making up absurd justifications for it, refusing to see that’s what you’re doing. I could and have ignored all of this, but then you try to pin the problems on ME.
Look, if you didn’t expect someone to disagree with you, then why the Hell did you agree to this conversation? More than once I have disregarded my points when they have been shown not to work. You have not. You will probably state that this is because your interpretations are right, but as far as intellectual honesty goes, I kinda think I have a better case than you right now.
While we’re at it, let’s talk about twisting things. You are focusing a lot on the “Cosmos might be fashioned after Cid’s wife” thing. When I pointed this out, you said, “Well, you brought it up!” Yeah. At the time, I even said that it was just an idea, not a major point. You’re making it out to be a cornerstone of my argument when it is not.
Honestly, this is why I don’t really like this place. The standing interpretation is right and anyone who disagrees with it is just an idiot. This is “Sephiroth can’t come back to life after AC” all over again.
So, for now, I will press on with this, but I do hope you stop with the ad homs and start with the critical analysis. And if you think I’m out-of-line in any of the preceding statements, well, too damn bad. To borrow your philosophy, I didn’t sling the first stone.
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As to FF1…I’ve never played it. I have been looking into the past games’ stories since Dissidia came out, but yeah. So, the time loop was severed. Another interesting line it makes was, “It was a mere twist of fate that gave rise to the chain of Garland’s wrath.”
I don’t think “being designed for this” is “a mere chain of fate.” But this could be & probably is a retcon, I will give you that.
The problem most people have with this ending is that Garland is waiting for the Warriors. This is open-ended. Why? Is he good now? Why can’t he conceivably just time travel AGAIN?
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Having read that thread…that’s ridiculous. Cloud can perform Omnislash Ver. 6 because he learned it from Firion? THAT’S your evidence and I’M grasping at straws?
Actually, I’m going to say that’s not only unsupported, it’s blatantly contradicted. We are told that everyone with Jenova’s cells has Jenova’s powers to a certain degree. Jenova can use telekinesis and flight. In fact, most of Cloud’s limit breaks can probably be attributed to Jenova’s influence.
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I’m pretty sure you mentioned Kingdom Hearts, but that’s not really important. My point is that references don’t prove anything.
Alright, so the characters believe they’re the genuine article. Also doesn’t prove anything when the backstory seems to tell us, verbatim, that they are not.
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No, your answer does not make sense. Kuja never gave any indication that it happened before. It was the exact same 2 lines. Moreover, why WOULD Kuja be surprised, if he already knows Zidane is like this? Your justification does not make any sense.
And yes, during the course of Dissidia, Ultimecia informs Kuja that he’s going to die and he goes apeshit. That’s why he joins Kefka/Cloud of Darkness/Exdeath’s plot.
We could justify all of this by saying that he was ressurrected without his memory, but as I said, the more you have to make excuses for a plot interpretation, the less it’s working.
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You are also incorrect in how the heroes and villains come back. Distant Glory: Villains shows us that they fight their way back from some kind of underworld. They exist in the world so long as their respective deity does–that’s all the quote you gave said. You’re attaching extra meaning to it.
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Ordinarily, I’d ignore your massive hypocrisy, but you’re pissing me off. How is it that you can demand that I explain every little detail of my idea with cited sources & other such bullshit, but you expect to get away with, “The characters not being real creates a lot of issues.”
WTF? What issues?
As to what I was referring to, I don’t know if you watch Bleach or not, but it’s the closest example to what I’m talking about:
Most anime don’t acknowledge their filler arcs for fear of messing with the original story (imagine that). Bleach is different. The Bount Arc is brought up several times after it’s happened. When souls are being sucked out of peoples’ bodies, Orihime asks if it might be the Bounts again. When Ichigo is going through his internal struggle, one of the characters that faces him is Jin Kariya, the leader of the Bounts. And so on.
My point being that the Bount Arc is reminisced in all of the logical places. If you take another anime like, say, Naruto, and he’s flashing back to all of the times he went Nine-Tailed Fox, clips from the filler arcs will be conspicuously absent. If they actually happened, he should have remembered them, should he not?]
I’m sure you’ll label all of this as irrelevent, but whatever. Since you’re so God damn obsessed with Kuja being new, I don’t remember where that was mentioned. Better to not address a point than to make half-baked justifications such as “Terra lost control because she’s Terra.”
NO!
At the end of FFVI, she had full control of her powers until the magic disappeared. This is a blatant contradiction of the original story! You can’t sweep that under the rug and call it a “counteargument.”
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Lastly, FF1’s story being before Dissidia. Hypothetical: The Fiends are still alive and so is Garland. They fuse, make Chaos, and bring Garland from the past.
Now, before you get all anal & start quoting my “what ifs” thing, you asked me how Dissidia could be after FF1.
There is the part where Garland says he will be sent 2K years into the past to become Chaos, but if time is looping, not linear, then “before” and “after” become irrelevant terms. Furthermore, it is strange that Garland, who supposedly loses his memory of becoming Chaos, knows all of this.
The fuck is wrong with the editing feature?
My statement of “in theory” was not a what if. You’ve put your foot in your mouth before because you’ve been too busy to lash out at what I say, rather than examine my actual point.
I said “in theory” because one could argue that Sephiroth fusing with the Core of the Planet would only affect that stage, in much the same way that Time Compression only seems to affect Ultimecia’s castle.
It is not a “what if” in any sense of the word. It is an acknowledgement that Sephiroth’s plan may be unsound, but it doesn’t matter, because that isn’t what the argument is about.
Actually, there is something important that I keep forgetting to specify: Garland and Warrior of Light are obviously the actual characters. There’s really no problem with them being in their own world, anyway.
First off NeoBahamut, you might want to take your comments to the actual article your responding to. Which is here:
http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-dissidia/4998/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-dissidia-final-fantasy-%E2%80%93-an-analysis-by-squall_of_seed-makoeyes987/
Second, you’re not making any sense at all, and your shifting of the goal posts is quite tiresome to read. No, they didn’t retcon FF1’s plot at all. You just failed to understand it. Why is Garland good now? Because he’s no longer chained to his fate as Chaos and is free to be his own person. You keep looking for inconsistencies where none exist.
And Squall_of_SeeD never said that theory about Omnislash Version 6 was definitive or the real answer. Just some theorizing for fun. Good job taking it out of context. And no, Cloud’s abilities don’t have anything to do with Jenova, seeing as how his Jenova cells are gone during the final fight with Sephiroth in ACC. Another erroneous conclusion.
I’d like you to give an example of Dissidia’s story contradicting specifically they are not the genuine article please. And by specific, I mean definitively stating so. Because your interpretation and/or twisting of the narrative does not suffice.
As for Kuja, again you look for inconsistencies where there are none. His surprise that Zidane would offer him his help after he once again tried to kill him and harm his friends is completely in character and justified. He is surprised Zidane would give him another chance, after having before, tried to defeat him. Why your mind can’t wrap itself around that is beyond me. Where does Ultimecia inform Kuja he will die? She tells him:
“I’m afraid not. Sadly, you are no more than a vessel…a flawed
one at that.”
Which doesn’t say anything about him going to die. Furthermore, the original Japanese script has Ultimecia say:
” No, unfortunately, it is the truth. You are the only one who uses
lies to manipulate people…”
So once more, it looks like an unfortunate mistranslation by the US version. There is nothing indicative at all of Ultimecia telling Kuja he’s going to die. Not in the US version, and especially no the original Japanese dialogue. You are wrong.
FYI, Kuja is said to be new to the war by Garland. He says to Kuja:
“Not at all. You and I are the same. Not just me. We are all the
same. Even that witch, Ultimecia… We all bear the same fate. You have only
been…directed…because you are new.”
Apparently you can’t even find the script or actually pay attention to the game proper.
Distant Glory: Villains shows that when a warrior dies and is cast aside by their diety they go to a Hell-like realm, yes. However that does that contradict Squall_of_SeeD in the least.
“As long as Chaos exists, so will we.” is what Emperor Mateus states, and that is true. As long as Chaos desires the villains to fight for his side, and be his pawns, he will keep bringing them back. That is what is shown. Gabranth was cast off so of course he wasn’t allowed to come back. You can’t argue that with your semantic word games and argumentative fallacies.
And good job comparing Dissidia to Bleach’s filler arcs. Except none of Bleach’s filler arcs are explicitly stated by the creators as being actual genuine installments of Final Fantasy, and were crafted with the intent of them NOT being considered a gaiden/side story. Your comparison is fail.
The fiends don’t fuse with Garland to make him Chaos either. You kill them before Garland absorbs their power and becomes Chaos. Another point of FF1’s plot you’ve missed, that renders your argument null and void.
Squall_of_SeeD isn’t the only one annoyed with your haphazard and shifty debate tactics.
so square have said thats theres a secret game thier anncouning and im thinks isffvii yay bout bloodly time but then i read a diffent aretical say that what nomura said he apprently anncoune any thing bout being highly requset but i still say its vii that thier wonking on but i dont know for sure but please sqaure-enix make the bloodly game its the best game ever
I want a remake. SO Square, don’t keep my hopes up.